Who's invading who?
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Countries willingly joining a military alliance isn't an invasion.
mama mia
> Natocrats are the real invaders
Thanks Ben Shapiro
Vlad. Stop projecting your insecurities. Russia is stupidity validating western insecurities with moronic military fiasco
russian wanting to reverse and curb the NATO influence is understandable and I say this supporting ukraine
>willingly
Yeah, willingly. They joined NATO as a form of protection against a possible invasion from Russia.
I see countries joining in liberty to NATO,
Fuck you russian supporter
Execpt they promised to not expand.
Now even Sweden and Finland are thinking to join NATO and Ukraine as well is dragging everyone in.
Not justifying Putin, but just imagine how happy he is to be "surrounded" by something literally created to keep them out.
yes
where were all these 'muh ukranian freedumbs' retards in 2014?
we got too cocky ameribros, we should've let these euros get their shit pushed in by putin
ZOG puppet states like Ukraine just want to "willingly" join NATO cause they fear the ebil Russia amirite bros?
Maybe if the Soviets didn't spend their entire existence rolling tanks into every country in their sphere of influence that disagreed with them, maybe said countries would be less frantic about joining an alliance that would prevent that from happening.
Was NATO and immigration policy decided by a referendum?
Invading is a strong word for countries that voluntarily want security
>Execpt they promised to not expand.
When?
>Execpt they promised to not expand.
They never said that. There was no agreement signed and the claim comes from Gorbachev, who himself has since stated that NATO never promised to expand.
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>Now even Sweden and Finland are thinking to join NATO
They want to join because they are fearful of Russia expanding even further.
you retard I see only russian lands expanding. NATO never attack or even bombed anything russian. NATO is expanding because russia is hostile since 90's.
So what that estonia joined nato did they bomb russia? Took land from russia? While russia taking land actively.
>never promised to expand
never promised not to expand*
DEAD RUSSIANS MAKE GOD LAUGH
yes
SHUT UP AND MAKE ME A PEPPERONI PIZZA
invading ur mum
>Either join us and kneel to niggers or die
lol
yes
take meds pedro
good post
sugi pula
It's ok when you do it though?
People are still crying to this day about how Hacha and Tiso signed treaties to become protectorates of Germany.
>Now even Sweden and Finland are thinking to join NATO
we've been pretty much against it for a long time
except now putin is threatening us if we do, which makes it more likely that we will join since he'll be fucked if he attacks us if we're in NATO
also being threatening and also invading ukraine only gives us more incentive he's basically driving us into NATO's arms
Globohomo aside, it's just hilarious how much the ruskies are shitting the bed right now. I guess China trully is our best hope. God help us.
It's a catch 22. West says Russia is evil so it inducts everyone into military organization. The organization absorbs country after country until it's literally on Russia's doorsteps, Russia says "wtf cut it out" and everyone says "HA WE KNEW YOU WERE EVIL ALL ALONG, THE FACT THIS SCARES YOU IS PROOF!"
Lmao.
The real tragedy of our world is that Americans and Russians neither have any idea how an actual democracy works.
They don't grasp, that peoples actually could decide for themselves.
Why should we give a fuck about what was "promised" decades ago, when we can simply decide again, and it is our right to decide for ourselves.
Russia can join NATO if they want to
>willingly
>stage coup in Ukraine
>stage coup in Macedonia
>Macedonia rejects NATO/EU membership by boycott
>70% of the country says NO
>puppet government joins anyway
How is this "willing"
Yeah, we all remember Austria being nuked in 1999.
>willingly
nice one memeflag fag
Why does NATO exist anyway. Cold war has been over for decades. The chinese have shown no aggression. Russia is not the soviet Union.
Russia attacked Ukraine. Any more stupid questions?
can Russia join NATO?
Has nothing to do with it. Hungary, Poland and Turkey—all of which are less pozzed than some non-NATO members such as Sweden or Ireland—are in NATO.
I'm not referring to Ukraine. Ukraine isn't in NATO.
Russia is invading ukraine to prevent it from joining NATO
Lol? Sucks to be Russia. You can't blame the eastern Europeans and Baltic's after how they were treated for decades under Soviet regime.
>I'm not referring to Ukraine. Ukraine isn't in NATO.
But Ukrainian decision to join is what started this, and it was all sponsored by US/EU fags to oust an elected government, just like Macedonia which is in NATO despite 70% of the population being against it
A defensive pact isn't an invasion.
The reason it exists is because of Russian aggression.
>Execpt they promised to not expand.
No. Though the Budapest agreement Russia signed had them promise to respect Ukraine's borders and sovereignty.
So which country is invading Russia exactly? All of those are NATO allies that joined willingly.
Boo hoo who gives a fuck about his corrupt ass.
When Russia agreed to German re-unification. Explicit condition was Nato would never move east. It has moved east 5 times since then with Ukraine attempt being the 6th.
Idi nahuy
Russia wanted to join NATO
Warsaw pact was a defensive pact
the reason it exists was because of US aggression
Remind me what the US did in Cuba?
>But Ukrainian decision to join is what started this
But OP's post excludes Ukraine; he is implying that former Soviet countries joining NATO constitues an invasion.
Why a foreign nation cares what alliances and pacts neighboring countries join it's their own business internal affairs. NATO has never taken any land or directly attacked Russia also Putin is just senile angry manlet that thinks everyone is out to get him.
North Atlantic treaty organization needs to expand to shores of western pacific. has absolutely nothing to do with "regime change" desires of military industrial complex lining their pockets.
Russia agreed to German re-unification? The Soviet Union isn't Russia.
America wouldn't accept Russian missiles in Cuba (1,300 miles from Washington DC). Russia shouldn't have to accept American tanks in Ukraine (300 miles from Moscow). Simple as that.
Putin gonna get deposed in a week. The cellphone video of him being raped will be glorious
We weren't "willing" and it weren't a democratic process. Look up how Denmark and Norway tried to create a Scandinavian alliance and how the US/Brits meddled with the process
* who's invading whom?
Christ you are a retard OP
its you invading the ground 7ft deep
>Comparing tanks to nukes
They think the Maidan coup was 'democracy in action'
Russia is invading Ukraine.
Your picture doesn't show invasion. It shows free nations firming voluntary alliances via self determination.
If you're confused look up the definition of invasion. Stupid fucking reactionary piece of shit.
>"You can't just take land from people and make a new country !! NOOOoooo..."
Russia tried to join NATO though but was rejected
Now ZOG is using all sort of shenanigans since 2014 CIA sponsered coup to have Ukraine in NATO, it is an openly anti Russian hostile organization at this point and globohomo leaders should just admit it
also dont give me that shit about muh defense, NATO bombed Yugoslavia and carved out Kosovo, shitting on territorial integrity of Serbia
stop replying to tripfaggots and memeflaggots
I agree Poland didn't join NATO willingly and it would be better if we didn't join. However we have a that one nigger in the neighbourhood that forced our hand. Rest of baltic states were forced in a similar fashion.
No, people are getting prepared to be invaded by russia, that's why nato exists.
If those countries don't join NATO they're going to end up being part of Russia sooner or later. Many of them WERE already part of Russia and do not want to go back to being part of Russia. So they joined NATO. Simple as.
Stfu turkrat lmao
I never thought I would see the day where European turn traitor against their fellow European to take up arms in favor of American rule. You are a spineless sniveling coward.
Yes, and? That still doesn't forgive Russia for being an aggressive, expansionist country that subjugates their neighbors.
>map is in slavshit
Apply yourself Ivan
>NOOO THERE'S NO POSSIBLE WAY ANYONE DILSIKES US, IT MUST ALL BE A CIA PSYOP
NATO was on the backfoot until this happened
now everyone for the next 50 years is going to want to join NATO again
all Putin had to do was fuckin wait out the war cooldown timer
You’re full of shit. Post source fag.
America is an aggressive expansionist country that subjugates its neighbours.
Hitler and mussolini caused this, and putin will expand it.
It's called mutual defense from people like putin.
Still not an invasion faggot.
I know you're a Russian troll farmer but you should probably learn English before you try to propagandize English speakers.
Sure faggot, and you can stop an army with twitter attacks. Fucking join the real world.
Idiot zogbot, Ukraine had CIA sponsored coup to push it into arms of EU and NATO. while Russia was denied
Russia is invading exactly to prevent NATO placing missiles on border of Russia pointing towards Moscow
>european
you probably think the us is a white country too, don't you
>Maybe if the Soviets didn't spend their entire existence rolling tanks into every country in their sphere of influence that disagreed with them, maybe said countries would be less frantic about joining an alliance that would prevent that from happening.
And it still protects Europe from Russia.
Using America as justification for invading is a bad look.
>just because amerimutts did it, i can do it too!
Russia is invading Ukraine, stupid fuck.
Don't you read the news?
Wait why isn't Austria in Nato?
Yes. In most non starting countries.
>Russia can join NATO if they want to
Putin did in 2000. Bush said no.
Russia is the designated boogieman country for kikes to set us against while they continue to rape our economies and import muds to replace us.
Why would NATO let Russia join when it's there to counter Russia?
>Now even Sweden and Finland are thinking to join NATO
We are not. That's Russian propaganda.
>Explicit condition was Nato would never move east
I don't recall any such condition. Is it in writing anywhere? Did any member state of NATO sign it on behalf of NATO?
Bingo. This is from 2014:
>“the end of the Cold War is a common victory.” Yet the United States insisted on treating Russia as the loser.
>“By the grace of God, America won the Cold War,” said Bush in 1992. That rhetoric would not have been damaging on its own. But it was reinforced by actions taken under the next 3 presidents.
>President Bill Clinton supported NATO’s bombing of Serbia without U.N. Security Council approval and the expansion of NATO to include former Warsaw Pact countries. Those moves seemed to violate the understanding that the United States would not take advantage of the Soviet retreat from Eastern Europe. In 1991, polls indicated 80 percent of Russian citizens had a favorable view of the United States; in 1999, the same percentage had an unfavorable view.
>When terrorists attacked the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, Putin was the first foreign leader to call and offer support. He cooperated with the United States when it invaded Afghanistan, and he voluntarily removed Russian bases from Cuba and Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam.
>What did he get in return? Meaningless praise from President George W. Bush, who then delivered the diplomatic equivalent of swift kicks to the groin: further expansion of NATO in the Baltics & Balkans, and plans for American bases there; withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty; invasion of Iraq without U.N. Security Council approval; overt participation in the “color revolutions” in Ukraine, Georgia and Kyrgyzstan; and then, probing some of the firmest red lines any Russian leader would draw, talk of taking Georgia and Ukraine into NATO. Americans, heritors of the Monroe Doctrine, should have understood that Russia would be hypersensitive to foreign-dominated military alliances approaching or touching its borders.
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I don’t think you thought this one through
russia is invading ukraine. cool map of countries that applied to join nato and were then accepted tho.
why didn't the US let Cuba have soviet ballistic missiles?
U retard, they didn't join willfully, they had violent uprisings financed by the West that overthrew their legal government. Death to hohols.
Gorbachov is a demeneed old traitor, he says opposite things in his interviews. However, newspapers of the 90’s well documented that, for example, Genscher (Minister of Foreign Affairs and Vice-Chancellor of Germany in 1974-1992 ) said at a press conference with Baker in Washington: "As I said, NATO has no intention of expanding eastward"
On February 9, 1990, at a meeting with Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze, James Baker stated that the United States was striving for a united Germany that would remain "strongly tied to NATO", while promising "iron guarantees that NATO jurisdiction or forces would not advance to the East.
So stfu u hohol retard
If Ukraine didn't join NATO it would end up being part of Russia again eventually. I don't care one way or the other if Ukraine wants to be in NATO or be Russia but it's going to end up one way or the other. I don't know which option is actually more popular in Ukraine.
Austria was divided like Germany after WWII but unlike Germany they were able to reunify early in exchange for neutrality.
You caused this shit by moving your military bases eastward you fucking faggot.
You do it via subversion and indoctrination and then you let people die like dogs for your precious ((elite)) who want to get their filthy little paws on russian natural resources
>Putin did in 2000. Bush said no.
That might have had something to do with what he did/was doing in Chechnya.
Nor is overthrowing their elected president.
This looks like reddit lately with all the copy-paste "voluntary" posts lol. Do you also think that Western citizens have "voluntarily" allowed the immigration of millions of men from other continents to their own countries? I'm not asking you to support Russia (in fact please don't), but stop being cringe and bluepilled please.
NATO is a DEFENSIVE ALLIANCE against russian aggression go fuck yourself boot licker.
Just admit that there's no comeback and that you're a hypocrite.
>It's ok to invade countries you feel threaten your security
>BUT NOT WHEN YOU DO IT ONLY I THE GREAT AND MIGHTY AMERICA MAY DO THAT
wow those countries want to join a strong defensive agreement? gee i fucking wonder why lol
I'm invading your mom.
yes, NATO is hostile anti Russian organization so Russia is invading Ukraine to stop Nato expansion after alphabet sponsored color revolution in 2014
NATO attacked Serbia so Russia doesnt buy the bullshit about it being "defense" organization
WEF planned this
Those countries are joining NATO. Russia is invading Ukraine. Are you retarded?
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No serious discussions about Russia joining NATO were ever held.
What NATO did reject however were the requests of the Visegrad group to join it (Hungary, Poland, etc...), they only joined after a process of adjusting to their demands.
Quite weird for an organization bent on encroaching upon Russia to reject countries close to Russia wanting to join it if you ask me.
>You can't place weapons within your own border
>Only Russia can do that
>You can't take a defensive stance when Russian take a hostile stance.
Suck a dick Putin's bitch boy.
>(((willingly)))
Is it common practice where you're from for defensive alliances to attack neutral third party countries? Or to ship arms to hostile non-member states? Maybe 'defensive' means something different in America. Nobody buys your 'defensive alliance' talking point.
No but your a faggot
>NATO
>defensive
yea we saw their "defense" when bombing Yugoslavia and ripping Kosovo from it. dont be an idiot
>Communist Jews subjugate Aryan Kings for 50 years
>They willingly join NATO as a result
>Russia Jews
HOW TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO EVIL
The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you
Yes
>still not conquered
Fell free to be jealous.
Which NATO member did Iraq attack
There was no hostile stance in the 00s.
You're noting but a worthless globohomo cuck.
Trannies beleive in god?
>they didn't join willfully
So by your logic you're against Russia installing a puppet government in Ukraine if they manage which I doubt to take Ukraine?
>after being opressed by stinky gommunists, all of a sudden you're not allowed to switch swides
>OR ELSE GOYIM
all so tiresome. chinese century when?
>tfw the relentlessly expanding NATO started Ukraine on the integration process in 2008 but somehow never finished it after ~13 years
This is how you know NATO is a bunch of bumbling retards, if they were smarter they'd have integrated Ukraine in like, the 1990s, and told Russia to cope kek
>Yeah, willingly. They joined NATO as a form of protection against a possible invasion from Russi
it was formed to combat the Soviet Union. Which no longer exists. But NATO continues to soil diplomacy in europe.
lmao learn some history retard, this was one of the main parts of the treaty after the soviet union fell.
Love how all of the west ignores this.
>still using amerimutt land as an excuse for your barbaric invasion