Now there is an endless spam of war propaganda here, telling us to support either side to kick off the war, but what really happened? Who is in the right? I think to make a proper evaluation we need to go back to 2014. The Ukrainian government under Janukovic was pro Russia, providing Russia with a buffer zone between NATO and itself. However there happened a revolution all according to the Soros blue print, and at the height of the events there were snipers on the Maidan shooting onto protesters and police forces alike. There was an open letter from iirc german ex BND members stating how both got shot by the same, which of course seems to have vanished, but there is heise.de/tp/features/Immer-erdrueckendere-Beweise-zu-Maidan-Scharfschuetzen-Einsatz-im-Februar-2014-3970907.html?seite=all talking about how the shooters themselves say they shot on both and were there to escalate the situation.
Now we can savely assume that Janukovic didnt give order to shoot his own forces, the police, nor had interest in escalating the demonstrations against him and thus we can assume, like the testimony of the shooters in the article suggest, that western forces were involved. It worked, Janukovic had to flee the country, and they promptly installed Poroshenko as a puppet, a weapons dealer that happened to be pro EU. With this russia was robbed of the buffer zone, but also Crimea contains an important port for the russian Navy is an access point to the mediterranian sea and thus of strategic importance explaining Russias effort to at least take these back.
Now while I definitely dont support russian imperialism (as they meddle around in the world history just as much as the USA, funding and supporting the opposite side of the burgers allies every time) we see that clearly the west already showed aggression in this conflict 8 years ago, installing a puppet government.
So whom to support? I would say they both should just fight another, and if russia then plans to continue past those boarders, then we can see further. After all there is a very real possibility they just want to drag the world into another war for another big blood sacrifice of white men.
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Sebastian Green
I mean, the ultimate goal is to dismember the remaining countries that will not 100% bend to american ideals, europe (if it isn't already) will be totally anglicized in such a world for example.
Dominic Taylor
From what I believe, Russia is in the right, just very slightly. They've been dormant for years, but the NATO build-up around Russia is very true. 1 thing I will always respect about Russia as opposed to our 2 nations is that Russia has their own ambitions and make decisions for themselves, we're literally hosting soldiers from other countries. I used to live in Limburg, but why the fuck did I see retarded niggers from America when I lived there?
I agree, issue is just that russia isnt innocent at all either. they have a long hidtory of expansionalistic effort through proxy wars.I dont trust russia at all and i would argue they definitely earned that mistrust. Not to mention Putin being a "ex" KGB operative. there is a fine line inbetween total self sacrifice of your people for globohomo and radical imperialism under the pretext of your peoples prosperity. nazi germany too put their people first but didnt bother with expensionalism
Christian Powell
another self bump
Ian Rogers
i hope russia wins because of what you said and also ukraine will be ukraine under russian influence not gay and faggoty its sad but true though this doesnt mean i think russia is like really great and perfect just better
I understand, but one thing I do want to add is that we all knew this was coming deep down after Biden's election. NATO, and to be more specific the Americans under Biden, escalated the Ukrainian-Russian issue to force Russia to do this. Under Trump, the Americans appeased Russia. This is exactly what the Biden administration wants, to make Russia look like the bad guy and impose new sanctions that will hurt Russia even more. At the end, the bad guy is always the same bad guy, the Americans are not human beings. Don't ever think they're human beings. They're not even a real country, just a capitalist beast that doesn't give a fuck about any living thing, it's just a machine that exists to make the elite more powerful.
russia has valid security concerns over western military expansion. ukraine government continues to fail at making peace
Cooper Bell
Funny how I used to think 45 was at minimum being manipulated by his compromised son or son-in-law to be so friendly with Russia but now I see it as giving Russia reasons to not get closer to China.
Dominic Perez
so what you are saying is we should drop the russia vs ukraine shit and just go to war against burgerland? and yes, i agree. but i cant help but see the same hegelian dialectic played out as all the other times. i mean to go into a full blown war with lots of destruction and blood sacrifice to transmutate the world the russian people and its military must support the war too. so obviously russia needs to be provided some legitimacy for this.
Brandon Reyes
im not trusting trump either really, but there were a bunch of good signs around him. the peacefulness with russia being one, but also with north korea. epstein and maxwell busted under his term, and no new wars started despite there being a lot of push towards it. even prepared to pull out of afghanistan which then was messed up by biden. remember that the Maidan stuff i mebtioned happened under obama
Isaiah Robinson
What I don't get about the democrats is why the fuck Russia is seen as a rival in any way. China is already and will become far more influential than Russia. I didn't like the orange man, because of his intense support for Israel to the point where it didn't even feel like he was America first, but at least he saw the bigger threat. China will continue to rise.
I support Balkanization of America, split 2, consisting of a degenerate north and white ethno states in the south. That's the only thing I want for America.
Ukraine's government is corrupt and Russia is liberating the parts that want to separate.
Hudson Thomas
>Putin is an """ex""" KGB agent
I never got this talking point. Is the implication that he's still a KGB agent despite the KGB no longer existing?
Anthony Lewis
Support neither side as kikes control both countries same as ours. We dont need to be lightswitch brained into pointless dichotomies like democrat/republican or Ukraine/Russia. There wont be a real war until a country expels their kikes like Germany in WW2. Covid and this conflict are distractions and convenient excuses for why inflation and gas prices are pushing middle class whites into poverty. Also dont forget about the Great Replacement as kikes force whites into extinction. We need to remove kikes from power brothers. Everything else is just noise.
