What is Putin's endgame?

I don't get it. He is getting into an Afghanistan style guerilla war that will deplete all his conventional forces over years. And he just fucked up his whole economy. What is there to win?

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This will all be wrapped up in about two weeks.

Probably some sort of agreement with Asian countries to help support them after this, they probably thought of it all, right?

>guerilla war
We have experience with Chechen rebels so it's nothing
>economy
Americucks already realized they can't do SHIT

If Putin thinks PingPong will help him he will have a rude awakening. China thinks of everyone else as subhumans.

Putin wants to be remembered as a Lenin.
He's over 70 years old at this point.
He's got nothing to loose and he thinks his legacy isn't big enough to last.

this isn't some shithole. this is a real european country.

What does this cyrillic say in English?

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>We have experience with Chechen rebels so it's nothing
Especially during the first war right Ivan?

But what would that imply? Everyone knows an attack on poland or the baltics would inevitably lead to ww3. Which would inevitably lead to nuclear war. Nothing to win here.

Idi na hui, cyka.
Go sit on a dick, bitch.

>this is a real european country
Yeah, that's why the majority of people will arange themselves with the situation and not take part in a guerilla war. Shitholes is where you have a guerilla war.

Is that picture of someone getting up in the middle of a CT scan?

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if it's so easy to invade Ukraine, then why the fuck is it taking you more then 8 years already? it's a loose-loose and I don't get what Putin is doing. did he just went insane?

good analysis! the patient had a panic attack.

It has always been made clear that turning Ukraine into a NATO/US ally and subsequent base would be seen by Russian as an existential threat. That has been a red line drawn into the sand twenty years ago. Always repeated alsways stressed. Now the US took the inititiative in 2014 to get this project going and here we are. The alternative is seen by Russia as so threatening that war is worth it.

>What is there to win?

There is aspect about most people don't think: Belarus. Now Belarus and Russia will have similar sanctions and common enemy, thus it will be easier to integrate them in Russia. If remember Germs history, there was North German Alliance or something, during Napoleonic war, on which basis they united and formed Germany.

Putin have already won. It is question about the price. Ukraine destroyed 80 tanks, but Russia have ~8000 of them. Even if just half of them are functional, there are plenty left which will replace 80 lost. Several planes shoot down, but Russia have several hundreds, if not thousand of them.

>And he just fucked up his whole economy.

He doesn't care. He have markets where to sell raw materials (oill, gas, metals). Iran, China, India. For common people living standard will drop significantly, but not for him. And his closest allies (alphabet agencies, military-industrial complex). Even costly victory will help him to concentrate more power, as "everybody loves victorious". I will be very, very surprised if Beloruss will not be annexed within next 15 years.

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>Everyone knows an attack on poland or the baltics would inevitably lead to ww3

Not really. There was already precedents when NATO member got attacked, and just that member country had to deal with it: most notable example: Falcland war.

getting up too fast*

No its me when I wake up every morning

>China thinks of everyone else as subhumans.
They copied that attitude from you anglos.

He's 70
You think trump cared if everyone died vs "he saved everyone" when he authorized operation warp speed, said he'd use soldiers to go door to door and forcibly inject everyone, and then brought home the Afghanistan soldiers?
It's a matter of being forgotten vs being worshipped forever

If that's what it says, thanks for translating

>It has always been made clear that turning Ukraine into a NATO/US ally and subsequent base would be seen by Russian as an existential threat.

I think real reason is that, if Ukraine would be more close to EU/Nato, then it would develop economically WAY faster than Russia. Ukraine have higher population density, which makes infrastructure improvements more easier and cost-effective. Just look at Poland, what they was 20 years ago, and what they are now. In 20 years, russians would start to question their rulling class, why they are semi-backward by comparing to Ukraine, if their starting positions were similar. Thus, Russia used opportunity of moment of weakness. That "NATO is dangerous for us" are just "smokes and mirrors" to distract real reasons. Now even if Ukraine pushes back them to 2020 borders, damage will be huge, to repair it will cost A LOT, and huge money sink for defence purposes will slow recovery even more.

>Afghanistan style guerilla war
It's not even close. The only thing the two wars have in common is that the conventional fighting will be over quickly and brutally. The military will succeed.
When it comes to the post-op, that's where things are night and day.
Ukrainians aren't a bunch of mountain tribals living a billion miles away and only contributing shitty opium to the world. They're Russia's next door neighbors and sit on a bank of resources. There will be no language barrier, no attempt to "uplift the savages" -- none of that misdirected shit that followed the Afghan war.

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>Ukraine
>not a shithole

how long???

>Afghanistan style guerilla war
Not happening

He's not going for total occupation. Putin's goal is to first secure Crimea and its water supplies plus more of the mainland coastline, a small area geographically, take over the Eastern oblasts and have them be the recognised Donestk, Donbass republics as buffer states and spook Ukraine from ever going for NATO or EU membership, keeping it in the axis of Russia.

he has lost his mind. all there is to it.

just two more weeks

This but unironically, nothing ever happens.

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>The only reason for people to take actions I disagree with is if they're insane.

Please, for the love of God, break that line of thinking. Hitler wasn't a madman, that's why he was so dangerous. Putin isn't a madman, he's rational, he's just doing something which goes against the established Western understanding of state interaction. I think it's heinous but he didn't just lose his marbles, stick underwear on his head and decide he wants to go march around Kiev for the hell of it.

Not quite... That's a CT scan of someone getting up in the middle of a picture.