Will he wimp out on his word if opposed?

Will he wimp out on his word if opposed?

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He will violently shart

Is it just me or does
>consequences of a kind that you have never faced in your history
not-so-subtly imply nukes?

That sure brings me back

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So also what is even his reasoning for invading?
I know 2014 was "muh ethnicity and nationalism", but what about this time?

you think hed really nuke a country and face nuclear retaliation over a piece of dirt thats going to take years to establish full control over

Probably not since they have a special protocol to only use them if another country uses nukes against them first.

>not-so-subtly imply nukes
yes but it's a bluff, he knows there is zero way he'll come out on top in such a situation
of course NATO can't risk nuclear Armageddon over ukraine either and he knows it.

He's not going to be opposed.

>its mine
>btfo my doorstep western pigs

Decomunisation and removing nazis.
Yeah.
Those two.
Putin wants to remove the nazi commies in Ukraine.

no
Russian rape squads

"demilitarization and denazification" of ukraine

Hes after the shekels. He can't help it, its in his blood. Rumor has it he's amassed quite a lot of wealth but he's sniffed out some more just next door.

kek

no country on the planet would seriously consider a preemptive nuclear strike against a nuclear-armed target

Why does everyone, everywhere, all the time, see Nazis? Every debate, every conflict, everything...Nazis. I think we might have gone a little too far with the post-WWII propaganda.

imagine if he nukes a city, i hope someone films it that would be beautiful to watch

Official reason is demilitarization and denazification
Really, he wants a reunified Soviet Union, minus the communism

>
Idk...Putin might think that he could light one or two off in Europe without a full scale retaliatory strike from the U.S. He might think that Biden doesn't have the balls to escalate while the U.S. is unscathed.

And he might be right in that.

Maybe hes trying to get the west off his back

>denazification
The fugg?

Because he knows the child fucker in the oval office won't stop him.

Ukranians attempting to build nukes, no joke.

Reasoning =/= excuses

Real reason is just continuous application of The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia by Dugin. That book was published in 1997 and fuck me sideways, but Nostradamus aint got shit on him. Literally everything that has been happening around Russia is written in there. It is their playbook and they play it well.

So if you wanna know how this shit plays out, read it. As much as I am not happy with the inevitable outcome, I can at least prepare to accept it.

nah if any country uses conventional warheads on russian soil they reserve the 'right' to deploy nuclear retaliation.

"Ukrainians = Nazis" has been a staple of Russian propaganda for years now. I think it started after Euromaidan or maybe annexation of Crimea, I'm not sure

his words not mine

do it Vlad, overstep even more then you already have so we can sweep into your shithole country and level the kremlin to the ground

vodka nigger faggot

>The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia by Dugin
Does he talk about Nazis?

they wont this might as well be his fault with how his administration handled Afghanistan

>invade russia
Gr8 plan m8

we should see what he will do, for the lulz
just get the secret services to "suicide" him

he actually said that he fucking used those words, it is a quote...

>As much as I am not happy with the inevitable outcome
what is the outcome he predicted

typical vodkanigger propaganda. They want to LARP as still being stronk mother russia fighting le evil nazis

You aren't going to do shit, Deshawn.

>t. hasn't followed russian propaganda on ukraine since 2014

I think he's right. NATO hasn't touched him since. Putin has China at his back and NATO knows it. All the USA has done is impose sanctions that make the stock exchanges drop and commodity prices rise. Russia can survive with Chinese support as long as it needs to, and if NATO strikes so will China.

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chinko-russian-islam

Ukraine wouldn't shut the fuck up for years. They wanted to get in with NATO. NATO is primarily an anti-Russian alliance. Russia doesn't want NATO perched right up its asshole. They're invading now not to absorb it entirely but to install a pro-Russian government and put the fucking boots to them to teach them what happens when they're not a good little bitch like Belarus is. Ultimately, they're going to be a quiet, lobotomized little buffer state that exists to put some distance between Russia and NATO.

He's a nazi lol

Yeah, it's so weird that when you keep invading countries, other countries want to join an alliance that's supposed to protect them from you. Mysterious. Can't wait to see how fast Sweden and Finland will now join.

Thats basically Asia
He is referencing the Asian millenia theory
sounds like an interesting man, i will look up the book
i like that sort of books
thank you

Why is his face so puffy?

every invasion russia did since the fall of the soviet union was to stop that country being invaded from joining NATO
NATO made the first moves
no matter how much you want to paradox this shit, it doesnt work

>Thats basically Asia
no no no no
he literally wants to mix it all up

botox and pervitin aka supermeth

>NATO made the first move by the country willingly joining NATO without any violence
Is this your brain on krokodile?

that's a bullshit pretext
the only reason a country would want to join nato is potential attack from russia, which russia is well known for doing
nato can place nukes in estonia, yet russian shills say nothing about it

A domino of countries joining military alliances is just as threatening as a domino of invasions, especially when the leader of the alliance is the US, which invades a new country and topples a new regime once a decade

>Can't wait to see how fast Sweden and Finland will now join.
So they can get sold out by the Americans going "Oh yeah baby, we're going to protect you from the big bad Russians. We're going to launder a couple hundred million, and you're going to agree to regulatory subsidies for GD, baby." And then kick them to curb like Georgia, first, and Ukraine right now.

Nobody in their right mind would join NATO at this point.

2014
>we must invade, and occupy for 8 years, Ukraine because we are ethno-nationalists
2022
>we must invade Ukraine because they are ethno-nationalist

>every invasion russia did since the fall of the soviet union was to stop that country being invaded from joining NATO
yes thanks for reiterating my point, vova

>nato can place nukes in estonia, yet russian shills say nothing about it
Because Russia is much more patient than Burgers ever could be. Contrast the muted Russian reaction to the Baltics and Poland joining NATO, reneging on an agreement that NATO once made btw, with America's spergout over Noriega, and turning Colombia into a multi-decade warzone.

kek this old moron

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What happens, in the event this turns into a second Chechnya situation or an Eastern European Afghanistan. Let’s say Ukraine is able to repeal the Russians despite a very heavy cost. Would there be consideration to letting Ukraine join NATO then? Wouldn’t they have demonstrated that they had earned it at that point?

>Russia puts weapons where ever it wants
>totally ok
>smaller countries do the same
>NOOOOOOOOO YU CAN*T DO THAT I AM IN DANGER
why is russia so wimpy

>want more distance between Russia and nato
>occupies Ukraine, which touches Poland, a nato country
Well that excuse doesn't fly Ivan, try again.

>Trump totally would have read Putin's mind
back to Any Forums

what are you even trying to say vatnik

>This is what retarded Russian serfs actually belive
Kek

he's a 5'6 manlet so he'd escalate unnecessarily
he's probably referring to cyber attacks and sleeper cells with plausible deniability
wouldn't be surprised if little green men show up in the baltics next, unless NATO steps up and starts deporting russians he's going to continue going "because russians live there"

Neither is "ok"
The small countries respond by joining NATO, Russia responds by invading and creating buffer states. It's just how it works in slavland

>NATO is invading your country because you willingly want to join it to protect yourselves from us
>so to protect you from joining them willingly we will bomb the shit out of your civilians and make you a puppet state

>you must stop free will with military force
Literal tankie, kill yourself.

He really does think like the average nigger teenager in the US.

>bring up Trump for no fucking reason
Yeah your not butthurt at all lmao.

Russia has no policy against first use of nukes, same as US

then why the cuban missle crisis?
Cuba wanted an alliance with the Soviet Union, why not let them be where they want to be?

That's why Slavland doesn't work

I'm not condoning anything, just showing the logic behind Russia's actions

They don't care about the Baltics.

Cuba had an alliance with the soviet union, America didn't bomb them for it.
The Cuban missle crisis wa specifically about placing nukes there, which was a result of Russia freaking out over nukes in turkey.
Fuck off and die shill

I’ve lived around niggers most of my life and I see a lot of similarities, lots of “I dindu nuffin”

I think he overplayed his hand here

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Never underestimate the desperate.
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no because nukes aren't real

oh nooooooooo i'm so afraid of fucking turkey

Well he knows that Russia retaking Constantinople for Christianity would crown Putin's legacy.

i dont shill, im open about my moral support to Russia
i would literally murder babies if Russia gives me such an order
all im saying is that Russia sees former soviet shitholes flirting with NATO as NATO at their doorstep
why the fuck should they allow that when the only reason NATO exists after the fall of the Soviet Union is because Russia isnt balkanized and russians confined to a zoo, which is what everyone thought the winning of a cold war would look like
if they can enforce their rule over their area, they do, same as any other regional or world power does, did and will do
im not saying its right to do so, but im asking why the hypocrisy?

>all im saying is that Russia sees former soviet shitholes flirting with NATO as NATO at their doorstep
they wouldn't be doing that shit if russian was not trying to conquer those nations

Gotta admit it would be a pretty based move

people really don't comprehend the depth of this conflict... the ideological struggle this lies underneath it, the future prospects, the cultural significance, none of it. All the media brings os shallow one-dimensional nonsense.

No, the russian State will not wimp out. They've drawn a red line, and they are ready to enforce it. Make no mistake about it.

They've seen NATO kill gadaffi with proxy rebels. They've seen NATO false flag revolutions in lybia, syria and Iraq. They've seen georgia. From Kiev to Moscow is easily navigatable flatlands, and they will NEVER allow for NATO to come so close; it would be geopolitical and millitary suicide for russia to let that happen.

Western leaders truly are imbeciles who have failed to comprehend the russo-sphere and its concerns. Wreckless diplomacy at best.

No.

HOLY SHIT Russian paratroopers spotted in Constantinople!!

If I was a world leader I wouldn't risk it. A lot of this is driven by the perceived disrespect and backstabbing the west has engaged in against Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union. Putin, in his speeches and appearances in the past couple weeks, seemed legitimately fucking pissed after meeting with UK and US Diplomats/leaders.

NATO doesn’t really give a shit about invading Russia. It’s literally a defensive alliance not an offensive

>Mfw Ottoman empire returns
>Mfw fez-wearing troops absolutely cream Ruskies by the boatload
>Mfw Turks enrich Ruskie boipucci
It will be glorious.

imagine
Imagine
IMAGINE
>cities turned to dust
>country shattered
>death in a scale never seen in human history
ARE YOU IMAGINING IT user

Then how'd they end up in iraq and afghanistan?

That wasn't NATO.

NATO never wages conventional wars, instead, they wage war by proxy - such as libya, syria, iraq, goergia, etc.

have you been living under a rock the past 20 years or what?

France wasn’t there in the 2nd invasion. Neither was Poland

Big talk for a poor aidsnigger country.

>Western leaders truly are imbeciles who have failed to comprehend the russo-sphere and its concerns. Wreckless diplomacy at best.

Maybe if Russia respected the sovereignty of its neighbours then everyone in the region wouldn’t be lining up to join Nato. No matter what, the Russians are going to find themselves in a second Cold War. It will be interesting to see what China does if the USA and the EU say you can either trade with us or Russia.

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it's also going to be limited to your imagination

>Western leaders truly are imbeciles who have failed to comprehend the russo-sphere and its concerns. Wreckless diplomacy at best.

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>2 of those invole Russia being butthurt
Hmm

Cope, vatnik.

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Poland was literally the fourth largest contributor to the 2003 invasion and remained their until 2008

>watch as the man who already made an enemy of europe by holding it hostage against a horde of shitskins and USA by buying russian missiles, makes an enemy of russia as well for no reason

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>gay interracial sex fantasies
found the mutt

Nah, he's a self-proclaimed fascist.

He has already openly threatened nato with nukes like twice since this all began, that's why I like him!

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Post county

>who have failed to comprehe-
What failure?
To fail you have to try.

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FakeNgay Russian propaganda

Explain the existence of the country of Kosovo

Putin's a kike btw
Has talked about how he loves those talmudist emonites
Has said jewry is integral to russian culture and history

>NATO purpose to stop Russian expansionism
>Russia expands because NATO wants to stop them from expanding

I know you're vatnik but surely even you can't be this retarded

it is high level neo ottoman strategy you would not understanding

>russia puts puppet leader in Ukraine as precursor to annex entire country or parts of it
>USA installs their own puppet leader
>russia cris evry tiem

"Defensive alliance" NATO has never ever fought a defensive war.
>it also never fought offensively
Not formally, no, but NATO members invaded other countries while relying on NATO infrastructure, NATO equipment, support of their NATO partners and threats of NATO involvement to back them up.
There were also attempts to invoke article 5 for an offensive war in a different sovereign country, albeit unsuccessful for now.
NATO is a legitimate threat for non-NATO countries.

Turkey is sending 500 tons of watermelons to help Ukraine.

The man's old and wants to leave a legacy beyond cutting the average Russian's living standards in half

I can’t tell if Putin is doing some kind of Nixonian bipolar shit or if he’s actually gone insane.

It is not a threat to Russia, and neither was Ukraine. Russia has started an illegal war that they can't finish. Screenshot this for when they inevitably fuck it up.

Since 1946 literally everyone who opposed Russia has been called nazis

You're in the end of days. Russia appears to ally with the Islamic groups and they eventually invade Israel. Which is not a good thing despite your hatred for the Jews. (Some of you) The Antichrist is here he just hasn't revealed himself.

Still the end is not here yet. No need to panic yet but Armageddon is on the horizon.

He may have actually gone insane. There is nothing to gain from this.

You can find a translation of his speech to the Duma from a few days ago. He wants a guarantee that Ukraine will not join NATO and threaten Russian security in the future. The US response has been "don't worry about it Ukraine isn't even ready to join yet."

Putin essentially wanted a compromise agreement to ban Ukraine from NATO which the US decided to try to play hard ball on, so he defaulted to what he was threatening which is removing Ukraine as a factor militarily.

What's happening here is much broader in scope than Joe Biden's skimming racket. Conservatives would do well to stop viewing everything through characters and personalities.

The only reason he would want that is if he planned to invade Ukraine. If Ukraine makes it through this, they are guaranteed to join, as are all of Russia's neighbors.

>here's a list of arguments based on modern history for why NATO is a threat for Russia
>no it isn't
Wow really got me there.
How could have I been so blind, wtf I love NATO now.

Those aren't conservatives. They're retards larping as patriots.

water

Do you think NATO is going to invade Russia if Ukraine is let in?

So will China hop on this train, invade Taiwan and then WW3 starts? Then once everyone nukes each other, sees the destruction they caused, will the remaining 50% of the human race come together and start building space colonies so we can get off this rock just like my Japanese anime?

In America, that's what a conservative is.

>The only reason he would want that is if he planned to invade Ukraine.
That sounds like a pretty tinfoil analysis but whatever. The ultimate reality is Russia had a security concern that many countries have had in the past, of having a foreign state seeking to in their view puppet a country on their border(for example castro's Cuba).

It's very quickly looking like the Biden administration made a massive mistake in their diplomatic policy a compromise would have been much preferable.

It would be a powermove for Russia to join NATO specifically so NATO cannot get involved with their conflicts

He just invaded Ukraine, dipshit. What more proof so you need?

>thinking 50% of the human race would survive a full exchange of nuclear weapons
Try 0.01% on the high end, and that's just from the initial blasts and first year of fallout, lo ger radiation exposure and cancer will get a good chunk of them in the following 15 years.

Russia was planned to be part of NATO, unfortunately, their level of corruption is not conducive to this.

>, will the remaining 50% of the human race come together and start building space colonies so we can get off this rock just like my Japanese anime?
no we must fight till there is only one type of human and then we can do that

Nazis are the Commies of Russia

There are no conservatives today

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Hey man I get it you're a zero sum game kind of guy, just understand that flows both ways. This all could have been avoided in the literal months of negotiation, unfortunately our leaders watched too much west wing or something.

>Try 0.01% on the high end
ur retarded

So then it's Jew vs Jew
Might as well not bother with it

the retards like you who spout this nonsense ignore that latvia, lithuania, and estonia are in NATO and directly border russia as well

Literally nobody is on Putin's side in this. China vs Taiwan would be a 1000x bigger happening. China wouldn't use some literally nothing like Ukraine to "cover" their own war.

>teaching your w*men to read
lefty filth

>fight and die for a country you don't care about and means nothing to you anymore
I highly recommend you read Osgood with regard to how national egoists, the most fervent lovers of their country can very quickly become those filled with the most hatred towards it when they become disillusioned.

The realty is you're fighting for a burnt out trash can for the same reason a dog eats its vomit.

That's why Russia is invading BEFORE it joins NATO you retard.

Isn't China trying to help Russia with some wheat stuff? Then again, I guess China just wants to shittalk the US any chance it gets.

Perhaps. His own people aren't exactly happy with what's happening

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They tried to negotiate. Putin planned this invasion for months. Let's see if he comes to regret it.

Sorry Vatnik, I love my country, not yours.

Accepting Ukraine into NATO would mean that Ukraine has no border conflicts.
Ukraine vehemently refuses the possibility of recognizing independence of Crimea and LDNR.
Therefore, Ukraine in NATO means Crimea and LDNR being retaken by Ukraine as a prerequisite, which means invasion of Russia and Russian allies.

To answer your question: no, personally I don't think that Russia would have been invaded if Ukraine is let in, at least not in the short term.
I think that Russia might have been invaded (or more likely pressured or otherwise coerced) in order to let Ukraine in.

Nobody wants to invade Russia in the nuclear age. Ruskies crying about "BUT WE ARE THREATENED" are retarded.

no one even wants russia. It's a huge shit hole.

And Ukraine is a small shithole.
Why do you want it?

Based Putin. Nato shat their pants.

Trump hasnt been in office for a while user

You are so retarded its amazing. Theyre all bgging to join nato, just like ukraine was. Nobody likes you russia nor your shit tech designed to kill its crew at every chance it meets a shoulder fired western weapon.

As I recall from old videos asking Soviets about it, they'd rather see nuclear armageddon than be wrong, or some shit.
Course that's the civilians, they live in I think borderline 3rd world nation poverty, and grow up on nothing but Russian propaganda. Must be pretty depressing.

>However, a 2005 poll indicated that the [Finnish] public was strongly against NATO membership.
>In October 2009, Finnish Prime Minister Matti Vanhanen reiterated that Finland had no plans to join NATO, and stated that the main lesson of the 2008 South Ossetia war was the need for closer ties to Russia.
>In October 2014, an opinion poll found for the first time more Swedes in favor of NATO membership (37%) than opposed (36%).
>According to a poll conducted by Sifo in June 2016, more Swedes are against a Swedish NATO membership than in favour of one.

ukrainians sided with the nazis when they invaded because stalin was way worse than hitler. Russians have been ass blasted about it ever since.

>you will live to see california and every city in the US get glassed
FINALLY

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That was before Russia went and dabbed on Kiev. Now they're trying to get in while Russia is still tied down in Ukraine.

>October 2014
>June 2016
>before Russia went and dabbed on Kiev

No you won’t lmao

>Crimea
>Donbass

>Kiev

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I live in the fucking desert. I'm sure I'll die of radiation poisoning or starvation not long afterwards, but at least it will be after those Californian fucks already bought it.

Because some of the paramilitary and political constituents of ukrainian forces directly reclaim themselves of that heritage.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/

I keep hearing this repeated, that the west simply cannot "comprehend" Russia and its policy, as if it holds some deeper, psycho-esoteric cardinality that defies description by English-speaking peoples
I'm starting to think the average Russian or Russian-sympathizer actually just doesn't know what the fuck is going on either, and is coping

PHONEPOSTERS OUT

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>annexing part of Ukraine isn't dabbing on Kiev
Ok then, I'll play along.
Since you are talking about current events only, please provide proof of Sweden and Finland begging to be let into NATO within the last 24 hours.

Protip: you won't, because it's a lie.
Finland said they reserve the option to join NATO (like they did before), but only if there is an acute and direct threat to Finnish national security:
eurasiantimes.com/russian-military-ops-in-ukraine-finland-nato-marin/
And Sweden reiterated that joining NATO is completely off the table:
thelocal.se/20220224/swedish-government-firm-on-not-joining-nato-despite-russian-aggression/

I hate my country and I hate every other country too.
We must destroy all borders.

Russia won’t get near a NATO country, much less bomb America

Yeah, that's what he's implying.
But there's a catch; there is one country who has faced consequences of that kind in their history.
My uncle nintendo says JSDF is going to attack Russia, who will then be forced to respond with pillow-fights instead of nukes.

412 dead russians vs 57 dead ukranians
Ukranian forces took back the airport

They've claimed to take back the airport three or four times already.

>protests against the occupation of Ukraine in over 40 Russian cities
>more than five hundreds of people arrested

>iraqi WMDs

do you just not know about the minsk agreement or what
did you forget that literally hours before the invasion he said russian forces would only go to donetsk and "peacekeep"
I appreciate you think russia is going to form some insurgency in the US and bring back traditional values like dying from HIV but please at least put a little effort into your trolling

you mean he wants to be the tsar of the russian empire

ok but then they'll need a buffer to the buffer. this is how the Roman empire happened

take your icecream man and go home turkey

>nobody wants this war
>not his count
>not his people
>probably not even his soldiers who have to die for his wet tsar fantasies
quick post your guess on what date he'll be assassinated

I honestly expect a small coup to happen

>They've seen NATO kill gadaffi with proxy rebels. They've seen NATO false flag revolutions in lybia, syria and Iraq. They've seen georgia. From Kiev to Moscow is easily navigatable flatlands, and they will NEVER allow for NATO to come so close; it would be geopolitical and millitary suicide for russia to let that happen.
libya*
navigable*
military*

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it may not be popular to invade blood brother but it probably has enough support because messages about
>muh mandatory Ukrainian
>muh NATO
>muh Lenin made Ukraine
all speak to long existing Russian fears/beliefs

That could mean sanctions

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Lots of videos of russian soldiers pulling a ANA and joining Ukraine

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>CIA did Euromaidan
Does this claim have any legitimacy or is it just Kremlinbot schizobabble.

little bit of column A
little bit of column B

So when are foreign volunteers gonna show up

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RUSSIA FAILED TO TAKE SUMY

What if you are Japan?

>ARE YOU IMAGINING IT
AH SHIT I'M FEELING IT

If he drops three, what will happen?
Will anime get more degenerate?
Will they start making even better cars?

Guess there's only one solution, Russo-Japanese War 2.0

the gas in the countries
Yes, putin is after Ukrainian BRAPS

>The consequences will never be the same!
Those were the days, I too remember when Any Forums was fun.

>Accepting Ukraine into NATO would mean that Ukraine has no border conflicts.
Greece and Turkey are in NATO and have border conflicts with each other (Cyprus problem).

Somehow according to putin Ukraine with a Jewish leader is nazi

>noooo you ca
nt seek protection from your abusive ex husband

Another golden age of vidya.

>invade
Lol fuck off nigger just drop some nukes in major cities and then everyone ignores the country for 30 years.

It's a good analogy. America was sweettalking Ukraine to get her to do some butt stuff while Russia wasn't paying attention, promising that he'd take her away on his motorcycle if Russia came by. Then when Russia comes by and catches them in the act, America runs away, having only wanted the novelty of fucking Ukraine in the ass and no intentions of making her his girlfriend.

all I could think of.

QUADS CONFIRM

Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias (Belarus, Ukraine, Russia)

You can get salmonella fucking turkey.

>If it sounds crazy, just remember that Israel was also funding and arming ISIS, which was also ostensibly “anti-Semitic.”
>Azov are not actual Nazis, they just use Nazi symbols. They are directly linked to Atomwaffen, which is a satanic cult that pretends to be Nazis.
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Fucking hell, user

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Western world is full of transsexuals and homosexuals. Weak men led by women. Russia has a leader willing to defend his people and reclaim their birthright.

>Slavland
All problems in "Slavland" stem from half-mongol russians and half-turk serbs

You think there are choices.
There are no choices.

Law, logic and reason dictate actions, if so then how can there ever be a choice.

Russia can't if its to be a country and peer adversary allow the US, Nato or any other to have the ability to shut down their nuclear weapons.

The US demands that it have the ability to do just that.
No choices.

This shit is hilarious and I can't wait until world war 3

>Look! Trannies! You guys all hate trannies right?!
>Please pay no attention to how muh stonk tradcath russia is getting it's teeth kicked in right now

I’d learn Russian and simp for him daily

lmao you’re getting btfo by ukraine the west would annihilate you

Yea he's a pussy

No one will oppose him, western nations are too cucked to do anything except bumble with sanctions and angry tweets

> US dollar is backed by OPEC oil sales
Funny, here I was thinking our dollar was backed by being the largest economy in the world that everyone else is drooling to sell to. If only I learned economics from vatniggers

There are already foreign fighters in Ukraine.

Russia holds the EU by the balls as most of their natural gas, oil, and coal comes from Russia. Ukraine is a majorly rich coal deposit that Russia knows will squeeze the EU's balls even harder if they manage to retake Ukraine as a whole.

Russia doesn't need a nuke when they can literally starve the 1st world EU from electricity and oil. The US can't compensate because dipshit biden destroyed the oil producing infrastructure since he came into office due to "muh carbon emissions, windmills and solar panels will save us".

>Commence the globohomo

I meant “rogue” military volunteers

Already happening.

I'm like 90% sure she's on some ghost show on whatever channel being one of the paid reactors validating obvious fake "soopernatural" videos now.

On the surface it's because he wants Ukraine back to launder money through, but really it's about his deep-seated aversion to democracy and has seen Ukraine overthrow his puppet government and watched Belarus almost do the same thing. He's also a firm believer in forcibly reuniting the Soviet Union in all but name.

He's basically the Tsar and the idea that people can choose for themselves offends him. That's why he and the Chinese are politically aligned.

>why the fuck should they allow that
Because live and let live, you dumb ape. But now it's going to be kill and be killed. Congrats. All they had to fucking do was *not* chimp out, but you can always trust on Russians to fuck shit up for no reason.

>has seen Ukraine overthrow his puppet government
You remember when Biden talked about threatening Ukraine's AG when they investigated a companies he had ties to him?

No and I don't care

Hard to say, Roscosmos has also unsubtly implied they'll de-orbit the ISS.

>No and I don't care
Then don't talk about puppet governments.

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No.

THIS IS FROM HER FATHER YOU BUNCH OF LYING NO GOOD PUNKS

Didn't he had a throat cancer months ago? that could explain his recklessness like he stopped giving shit.

A lot of people are speculating that he's either dying or strongly aware of his mortality.

He showed fear and tiredness clearly in his body language. Drooping shoulders, the way he’s seated, etc. The speech was also rambling. What’s he so scared of that he shows it so plainly to the world? Nothing pedestrian like sanctions or losing a war against Ukraine which is unlikely anyway.

It’s nuclear war. He’s really scared that they went too far this time, and NATO may bomb Russian territory. He may not be able to control Russia’s nuclear forces which been highly indoctrinated into a religious system; they could launch based on a holy duty not secular power. If they launch, Russia is done. It’ll become a parking lot. No one will "win" in a nuclear exchange with Russia but Russia will lose the hardest.

That is why Putin seemed so scared and worn out. That’s also why Russia has been very gentle in the war so far not touching civilian infrastructure. No matter what Putin is trying to keep Russia from being attacked militarily and triggering nuclear forces.

He either wimps out or Russia gets equally nuked (either by putin himself nuking the west or ukraine, or a segment of his nuclear forces goes rogue and starts the nuclear war), hopefully he gets vaporized in it. There's literally no in-betweens in a nuclear stand off between the US and Russia. Having a couple hundred extra nukes makes almost no difference in the end result.

Yes, if you think based Biden isn't willing to sacrifice millions of white American lives to secure his parties money laundering operation, you aren't paying attention.

He was reportedly blindsided and pissed that Biden knew of his shenanigans and that he released the information to the world, undercutting his own narrative.

>Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, DDR

that's Turkiye to you

>He showed fear and tiredness clearly in his body language.
The only thing I got from his speech is resignation, which fits with his angle of
>YOU DIDN'T LISTEN, IT'S HAPPENING
for why he's invading.

Haven't the russian nuclear forces historically been some of the most sane military personnel they've ever had?
Like haven't they multiple times ignored orders from above and general doctrine and instead trusted their own judgement?

Just like dekulakization.

this fat mongol faggot probably has some terminal illness and is just doing whatever he can think of now

we already turned everything off.
They need us a lot more than we need them.
Have fun trading with china and north korea, vatnik.

US EUCOM is supposedly/possibly at DEFCON 2. If putin attacks NATO he is getting a response in kind (either nuclear or conventional).

No possibility about it. Every NATO country is waiting for Russia to do something stupid and get one of the eastern members to declare Article V.

At this point, if any nato country goes into ukraine it would be to start ww3. Pushing his hand this far was a horrible mistake by joe biden, he was alone, isolated and on a decaying economy. Had he not taken the military in this, had he just handled it carefuly, rusia would have had no option but to back down, but they cornered them and now theyll invade fucking ukraine and be much closer to europe than ever before. And yeah, sanctions are hilarious, since they are allied with china and you can't really sanction china, what is the us gonna do? stop importing like 80% of what it consumes? kick out the trillions of dollars chinese have in business there? remove their trillions of dollars from the chinese economy? of fucking course not. This was all done by the chinese and it was done with extreme finese. There's a reason why trump and right wing americnas are supporting putin on this one, Biden did everything he could to make the situation worse, now he either lets an otherwise dead empire revive or he starts ww3 and ruins everything for everone. Politicians truly are shit, Trump is not really republican hes something new, if people wanted something different they should make a different party, republicans or democrats are cancer and if thats the only alternativa i'll take trump %1000000 of the time

>1 ruble has been deposited into your account

I didn't read any of that shit. I'm not going to read any of this replies to this post either.

Rusia: Don't put misiles in ukraine or well invade
Us: no you wont we defend our allies!
*invades ukraine*
Us: ok but if you take ONE more step youre dead
Russia, thats ok i just wanted ukrainE
us: HA YOURE AFRAID OF US AMERICA #1
ukraine: please help im being buttfucked to death
us: dont worry we'll impose sanctions that dont affect any american, chinese, german or british interest, like uhmmm.... we'll rais the tax on borsch by 10%! ha!

Are you 12? Learn how to spell, retard.

like, let's be honest, eastern europe has always been a political shitstorm that acts as a buffer between germany and russia, nothing really changed. Also, remarkably few people died for it being "the war of the century" like it's less than a plane crash.

BIg nothingburger, remember my words

you forgot about Hapsburgs, when the Austrian empire collapsed it left a power vacuum. If you really want to blame someone every thing that built up to todays geopolitical cess pool was Napoleon.

you're the biggest retard ive seen on this website today

>are you 12
Even stupider, he's a vatnik

Lol, its delicious that youre so offended you have to run away that quickly. Fantastic to know i defeated you so thorougly with the power of my mind
learn to hide youre ass destroyed. I can type fast with errors if i want this is the internet, what you cant do is refute my logic, or get a girlfriend. Please leave and never come back, no one likes you, not even anonymously.

damn feels good to be objectively superior, and THIS is the end of discussion to which if anyone replies hes accepting he enjoys it when their family gets raped and accepts his total and complete inferiority and condition as a humillating failure.

not saying he isn't retarded, but that basically is exactly what happened.

didn't read

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dont care vatnik

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shh dont cry, if you bathe more than once a week girls will talk to you

if youre gonna look at history as a story with easy villains and heroes, youre going to have a hard time having a clue as to what happened.

ok im offf the thread. I HAVE WON

I HAVE WON EVERY DISCUSSION AND FEELS GREAT. ok, you inferior guys who are obviously upset cause youe have no girlfriends (and its delicious to know im right) and you read no history books (yet you think you know) and when somneone who has read many history books(more than you could imagine) comes and shows you the truth, then um mmm its DE-LI-CIOUS how you cry? nuff said, remember to build me a monument for making the time to speak to you, this is the last time in your life youll be in contact with a person so high in the upper class, sucks to be you, but, hehe , keep in mind i did magnanimosuly tried to offer my help for free (even tought i should charge 100 dollars a second for the service im doing to you) but no, you chose to deny, you choose to say no. OBJECTIVELY SUPERIOR WHO WON THE THREA D LEAVING NOW. REMEMBER: IF YOU WORK HARD FOR 40 YEARS YOU MIGHT BE AS AWESOME AS I WAS WHEN I WAS 10. BYE OBJECTIVELY LOSERS

I like how my gg no re strat triggered you so much that you tried to imitate it.

meds

the Z is a paint that reflects an IR signature that tells aircraft they are a friendly, Russian troops are wearing the same tape around their legs. Russia is literally a 3rd world military.

I dunno about that, kinda smart to be as lowtech as possible in a technological war where electronics can be tracked and neutralized.

i came back here after listening his entire speech. is it me or is he invading ukraine because he's butthurt that USSR collapsed and russia is no longer a superpower?

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That's half of it, the other half is showing that nobody can defy him and get away with it.

No the other half is that we (USA) are setting up shop in a former Soviet territory and right along Russia’s border. He knows if he doesn’t do something it’s only a matter of time until it’s too late.

euros and americans are not deranged enough to start a new world war(yet). he should have known that if he was a sane man like me.

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half of USA (which includes the right wing warrior class that the bankers have depended on to die for them) absolutely would rather go to war against democrats than die in a war with russia for them.

Only going to happen if they lose.

lolno. Most Republicans don't like Russia either. Ivans are desperate for a fifth column they can exploit because they're fucked if they can't.

The catch is that they must not be involved in any ongoing conflicts to join.
So long as Ukraine is unwilling to cede or unable to reoccupied the the contested territory they can't join

I didn't say they liked Russia, that's just the democrats framing it that way for midterms and the fact that they spent the last 6 years with RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA DRUMPF

>Pay separatists to larp as NAZIs
>OY VEY TIME TO REMOVE NAZIs in Ukraine!!!

not dying in Ukraine for Biden is antisemitism.

dekulakization with a more western friendly paint job.

did you not get your NPC update?

No Vatniks are convinced that only Western Nations perform false flags or cause international trouble to justify their own involvement.

Russia would never instigate problems a neighboring country whose land then want..

Nuclear forces everywhere have generally been a hell of a lot less trigger-happy than other sectors of the military because they hang-around some of the deadliest weapons on the planet on a semi-regular basis and are constantly reminded of how easy it is to launch a radioactive apocalypse.

There is a reason they get swapped out on a regular basis because if you keep one in charge too long, chances are he'll become enough of a pacifist pussy to disobey a direct order even when it is go time.

>euros and americans are not deranged enough to start a new world war

Who are you kidding? We are a Zog led nation with tons of military spending

Some people are saying it's on purpose to clear out storage/warehouse space for newer tech.

Either way, goes to show you how little they value the life of even their own citizens if they're willing to send them into enemy territory in such shitheaps