Is it true that real communism has never been tried or it's just commie cope?

>if government allows me to squat in this building I now live in marxist society
cool.

When they say it hasn’t been tried, they’re talking the “state will wither away” part, which Lenin and co. immediately realized was a pure fantasy shortly after taking power. It’s the same sort of cope that capitalists say when capitalism has never been tried because muh state is in the way.

Also if you're in Romania didn't you and your family basically get your home and land given to you by communism? I mean you just got ownership of it, didn't you? Isn't that why Romania has all of this super high home ownership rate? You have not really gotten to experience "actual capitalism" yet. You're kind of still basking in the glow of the communist welfare state you all benefited from

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
It wasn't real capitalism.

Why would communists never try communism? What kind of sense would that make?
"I'm a communist. I know... Lets try to do Fascism!"
"I'm a communist. I know... Lets try to do State Capitalism!"

If the government doesn't evict people then it's not squatting, it's ownership

There were former slaves interviewed in the late 19th century which said they wanted a return to their previous lifestyle. Formerly incarcerated people often wish to go back to prison. Those who wish for a return of the soviet union probably miss when their nation was a relevant superpower on the world's stage rather than missing the ideology of marxism.

LMAO no this isn't anything comparable to anything you mentioned. What a load of right-wing cope. We're talking about large, decisive majorities of people who experienced both systems and said the communist system is better. Really, keep coping

>In his annual state of the nation address on Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin called the collapse of the Soviet empire “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.”
Is Putin a marxist?

This is a total non sequitur. What does that have to do with the comment you replied to and what point did you think you were making or were you trying to make?

Also it's not unheard of for North Korean defectors to turn to the DPRK. Can you really say that North Korea has a better system than South Korea?

>This is a total non sequitur.
No it isn't. It speaks to what I previously said:
>Those who wish for a return of the soviet union probably miss when their nation was a relevant superpower on the world's stage rather than missing the ideology of marxism.

I can say that vast decisive majorities of people who lived under both systems say the communist system is better. Keep coping

It doesn't speak to anything. It means nothing. I literally don't even know what point you think you're making here other than that you're clearly butthurt about the Russian sentiment toward the old communist system being better

>Is it true that real communism has never been tried or it's just commie cope?
It originates from the idea that communism, as we've seen it, deviates too far from Marx's original ideals.
The problem is, Marx mostly just drew attention to problems, but only offered vague solutions.
It also comes from the idea that every example of communism we've seen ends up being a corrupted and bastardized version of what it starts out as.
The issue here is that this initial state needs to be modified to fit reality and in turn deviates from the ideologically pure version it starts out as due to the ungodly levels of bureaucracy required to centrally plan so many aspects of production and distribution.
It also just happens to be a very corruptible system.
The final reason it's referenced is because "my specific ideal version hasn't been tried", which often tends to be just as fantastical if not more so than previous examples, and when examined has just as many if not more glaring flaws.
Communism could only work in a vacuum and on a small scale tribal like society, it is an inadequate solution for a national level governmental system.
Marx's observations on the society of the time were indeed accurate and worth remembering, but his solutions were poorly contrived.

I said that people of the former soviet union probably miss when they lived in a superpower rather than whatever irrelevant country they currently live in rather than specifically missing marxism. You're pretending not to understand for some reason.

LMAO like a typical right-winger you know nothing of either Marxism or the communist countries that tried to implement his ideas

Fpbp BASED

yes pure cope if chinks were fag utopia commies would call it real commies despite the fact chinks are fascist

All forms of government are fucked. Including capitalism. If USA proves anything that one way or another tyrants will come to power and divide the nation in to classes. Communism is arguably worse because it gives control of food and money to a government that might not like you. At least with free market capitalism people can hate you but they still want to sell you food. The idea behind America was to reject all isms in the government. Removing state control from communists, capitalists and socialists. We still have socialist programs. 100's in fact. Police, schools, fire departments are all socialist. Doctors are capitalist and welfare recipients are communists. its a big fucking mess. But the government can't clean up that mess you have to work it out yourself. Please see following vid.

youtube.com/watch?v=CkMWeV2maIM

>"I said a thing based on absolutely nothing other than that I desperately want it to be true because I'm butthurt about Russians saying communism was better"
No I got you. I just didn't get what your point was about Putin. That was totally a non sequitur, but whatever man. You're pissed about your dumb right-wing viewpoint being proven wrong. I understand.

it's true. include religions in that list too. what you read in books and how they're executed irl are completely different. npcs are fighting over ideologies that were never truly implemented kek

DUMB FUCKING CATTLE GOYIM

I don't give a shit, I would rather have that than being another CIA Military Junta Economic Colony #242

>No I got you. I just didn't get what your point was about Putin
Putin obviously isn't a marxist and yet he decries the abolishment of the soviet union. Which speaks to the point I just made.

>Police, schools, fire departments are all socialist.
You're a massive fucking retard.

No it doesn't speak to any point at all. Literally nothing.

>Is it true that real *fantasy world in the head of a failed 19th century man* has never been tried or it's just *people still believing in that bullshit* cope?
The answer is found inside question for the ones who can see it

What could be the reason(s) why Putin regrets the abolishment of the Soviet Union other than him agreeing with marxism?

>No one who lived under communism wants it back
>Except the vast majority that does, but they're clearly dumb slaves so their opinion doesn't count.
Literally every time lmao.

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I have no idea what you call state funded institutions other than socialist. They receive money from our taxes.

It's amazing that you're pushing this over and over like you think you've found something that proves your point and yet it just doesn't. It's just meaningless. It's just you, a crazy boomer on the internet, whining about something totally random that nobody on Earth cares about but you

You're a massive fucking retard.

wall of text cope
"environmental issues"
tf?
literally murdered 100,000,000 human beings to "remake" society and FAILED
so next time 2 billion going to be the magic number for commies to get to utopia? 4 billion?
literally murder all non party members over the age of 4 so you can indoctrinate the people just the right way, then it'll work?

all marxists can create is death and suffering, with mediocre results to show for it
and in the end, create the very pyramid structure of exploitation they claim to be against

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Communism works well as an element of a democratic system like in Kerala India. Authoritarianism fails because muh alpha chimp is the simplest retard level social structure that exists.

It's commie cope, and they know it. The convinient switch between communist class oppressor/oppressed dichotomy into the postmodern race based critical theory immediately after the fall of the Soviet Union and successful introduction of capitalism in China is proof of it.

Lamao firt worldie college student bought into the propaganda version of communism
Enjoy as the comissars execute you for being a retard who didnt realize its about enslaving the poor

Please refute my argument.

Most who died in authoritarian communism were small children, in eras before birth control so that during those periods the populations still increased.

I don't think anyone has ever claimed "communists murdered 100 million" that is just a fake, non-historical claim you made up.
Communists "murdered" 6 million kulaks deliberately. Because the kulaks were feudalists and burned their grain to deliberately starve millions of soviets by causing famine. So Stalin starved them (again, based). There are a few other similar cases, esp in China where lots of poor rural religious zealots wanted feudalism to come back and thought everyone was morally duty bound to be serfs, cuz rural religious zealots are retarded as we're seeing today in America with MAGA

LMAO you don't have an "argument" you're just a massive fucking retard saying "police is socialism". You're a massive fucking retard.

If Putin isn't a marxist you have to acknowledge that people can experience sentimentality towards the soviet union for reasons other than an appreciation for marxist ideology.

Then don't have an authoritarian system retard. There are democratic communist parties in every euro country. You think if the Polish commies won a majority all of a sudden the entire voting system would be discarded? You just fear the atheist aspect of communists because you're a dumbfuck kike worshiper.