So Tesla is worth 1 trillion... despite not making any money really.
Volkswagen is worth like 150 billion... one small prt of Volkswagen is Porsche. Now, if you spin off Porsche, then it is supposed to be worth 200 billkon while Volkswagen remains worth like 120 billion or so.
Where the fuck does this madness come from?
The real question is: Why do you care?
>Asking why this could happen, on Any Forums of all places
>Where the fuck does this madness come from?
Make a wild guess
you are likely looking for more detailed sums that filter unnecessary data
The stock market is not valued on actual real value, but on "confidence".
Why should I not care?
What would they do? More pleb models like Mercedes? Another fucking 4 door lmao? More sports SUV monstrosities? Trash brand in the current year.
I need to put money somewhere, it won't be in banks or lines of code tokens. Must understand wacky psychology or get whacked financially.
>Why do you care?
go back to sleep, retard.
high dividend energy is the move bro
I see Porches everywhere, way more than Volkswagens
Because investors see what sells, as do the Porsche execs & engineers.
And this gives confidence in Porsche's personnel to upkeep this standard & quality for their future cars.
VW on the other hand has been a let-down, hence the lower value.
investors know government backstops are no brainers
Germany got rid of most of its big banks when it got rid of Jews. You may have alot of holocaust remembrance but you removed most of the financial speculation that is endemic elsewhere.
They can pimp the Porsche name for shekels because the brand still means something to people. Plebs will buy all sorts of Porsche labeled shit for a while until they figure out it's just a tag, like they've done to other historic brands.
If Porsche is heavily profitable but VW is heavily burdened by debt or unprofitable branches, it would be possible for Porsche to command a sale sprice higher than the total value of VW.
You see Currency market has been increased by an addtional 100%, which means in 10-20 years everything will costt x2, which means companies earn more, as for you earning x2 the amount, I doubt it.
The retail car market is going to die within the next decade. They are trying to cash out.
Value and how people decide what is worth vestment is a fun topic. Conversely OP isnt worth shit and never will be. Cheers.
How?
VW with Porsche worth 150bn
VW with Porsche (Porsche independent) worth 320bn
Where do the 170bn come from?
Just going out on a limb here, but Jews?
Speculation. why do you think Apple is worth 3t?
Rare
The rest of VW is valuated negatively.
Tesla is NOT worth 1 trillion dollars. Not even close. Tesla stock is the most overvalued trash there is.
Fuckin' ell mate, rare as well.
You glow like jizz under a blacklight.
How? Anyone with 2 functioning brain cells knows that's true.
>VW buys Porsche X many years ago
>Provides the engineering and mfg expertise to bring the prestigious, but technologically lagging brand into the 21st century
>Heavy lifting done, Porsche capable of chugging along for a good 10 years sitting on their hands for a good 10 years
>Spin them off
>High value brand, can sell cars for much more than their cost to make
>Don't have the extra bloat of VW
Not sure if this makes any sense to you, but basically Porsche is set up to print money for a while. Chuck in some batteries and go head to head with tesla in the premier EV market
>Brand = $
>Financial wizards cook up some number about IP
>The people that matter all get a slice of the pie
>In 10 years they either keep chugging or brand reabsorbed into the big guys
Yes the financial market is a bunch of quackery but its kind of a safe bet and valuation in this day and age. Germs simply wouldnt understand, they still think you have to actually produce and innovate to make money
If push comes to shove and everybody starts cashing out though their value drops like a rock. Youll never be able to liquidate the full amount once things start going south
Just look at facebook
Its weird but yeah. I didn't make the rules.
>german-bro doesn't realize Porsche actually owns VW
Porsche capitalized on a short squeeze of VW and did a hostile takeover.
>So Tesla is worth 1 trillion... despite not making any money really.
it is making money and profits are going up fast
>Volkswagen is worth like 150 billion... one small prt of Volkswagen is Porsche
how profitable is Porsche vs Volkswagen?
you are a dumbass
The problem is that Volkswagen and Porsche are basically two different companies. Everything Porsche does turns to Gold, while people dont have the same confidence with Volkswagen. If Porsche would spin off, you would invest directly in a highly competitive company that can do no wrong.
Basically the low valutaion of Volkswagen is the market telling the leadership of Volkswagen that they ae not satisfied with what they do. Yes, the company could be worth ten times more, but they cant use their potential. They would have confidence that Porsche would fulfill their potential, though.
if VW is anything like Ford or GM they have ungodly amount of liabilities in pensions, overhead, union contracts, ageing capital investments not easily liquidated etc etc. Not as nimble and fresh for high valuation like Tesla. Tesla is still overvalued don't get me wrong, but theyre still growing whereas the big guys have kind of plateaued
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