You gotta assume that Putin wouldn’t dream of doing this if Trump were POTUS

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Trust the plan
Two more weeks

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Face it chud, Rostov Don did this.

No it would have been sorted out, democrats love wars

misplaced hubris.
same army-same gear- biden backs the fuck down

nah, trump would have talked it over a good steak and it wouldnt even make it to the news.

Obama lost crimea, biden donbas/luhansk, next dnc president will probably give up baltics and poland

Correct. He kept putin in check; North Korea too.
This weak old fool means they've seen their chance and taken it, when they would never have tried before.

Once again Putin waits until Democrats are in the White House to take action in Ukraine. Russia took Crimea in 2014 when Obama was president and Russia is taking more of Ukraine now while Biden is president

Putin knows Democrats are weak

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Honestly dont think he would have.
I think putin was slightly scared of trump due to his erratic decisions. By erratic i mean compared to the standard bullshit politician reaponses to issues.
I think this is what putin planned all along though.
Set up rebels in Ukraine. Wait until trump was gone then threaten full invasion only to claim the separatist part.
Western leaders are cowards so will be happy thats all he is wanting.

Yes but not because he's a smooth talker or anything. More like because he's crazy enough to commit a war crime and blow someone up at any given notice just because a few people, chimped out on US property.
If Putin tried any of this with Trump he might have been retarded enough to go to war with him and that possibility alone was enough of a deterrent.

Not trying to shit on Trump too much. Just saying he's unpredictable when it comes to big decisions like this. And honestly that may have been his best characteristic. It keeps people in check.

>Taking
Donetsk and Luhansk both declared independence.

He knew Trump was a loose cannon who wouldn't let it come to a land grab.

So despite Russia proving the arms and agents, it's "an independent thing".
Mate; don't be so naïve. Just think for a second.

Trump didn't give a fuck about non US territory.

well Trump tried to disband NATO, the only organization standing up to Russia. He even tried and almost succeeded to make the US leave NATO and put in a tremendous amount of effort to try and close US bases in other countries and try to weaken the US forces on foreign bases. Not just that as he removed all support to Ukraine and did his best to undermine Ukraine in every dimension at an international level.

I would be more afraid of pedo joe being unpredictable than Trump if I were you.

this is why I kek at boomers still trundling out this whole "muh pootin/xi wouldn't try shit with trump in the white house" then the next minute they praise his isolationism lol.

They literally declared independence, and Russia has recognised their independence.

Hello Ivan

Putin was justified.

What do you think Russia should even do? Not recognise an independent nation?

Trump was unpredictable because he would say he would rain fire and hell. People laughed it off but then were shocked to find out he'd actually do it.

Biden is just straight up incompetent. He's yet to back up his bold claims so no one takes him seriously. He tells us how one thing is gonna play out only for shit to get worse so no one is confident in his awareness.

But yes I am worried. We're gonna get our shit pushed hard on a lot of stuff now that he's been exposed this bad.

Right wing sucking each other off.

Trump is probably the only person Putin ever feared. Trump was an unstable genius.

Trump is Putin's Poodle.

Trump is saying sweet fuck all about Ukraine. Why? Because Putin told him not to speak without permission.

Literally nothing from Trump on this.

it's only ok when the u.s. does it

Nobody ever accused miga boomers of being smart

Prove it