Like the subject says. What are some things that men like me can do to help various "dissident" (I dislike the term because it sounds LARP-y, but you get what I mean) causes?
One of the main issues we're facing is demographics, but what can we do to help with that? Is it just a case of somehow funding men who have kids to have more, maybe so he can impregnate other women?
Discuss.
Just have sex Chud
See? This is what I am wanting to start a discussion about. For those of us who are fit and healthy, doing well financially and socially, but are still destined to be incels, what good can we be?
Obviously the idea that we'd have a family of our own is an impossibility, but what is the alternative that can still aid white people?
>destined
no such thing
>fit and healthy, doing well financially and socially
if this is the case then theres pussy out there for you
>what is the alternative that can still aid white people
if u put it like that you might wanna consider killing yourself
>no such thing
Why not?
>if this is the case then theres pussy out there for you
Why?
>if u put it like that you might wanna consider killing yourself
You know what I mean. Natives in European countries are experiencing demographic decline, so what can those who can't have families of their own to halt/slow this decline do to halt/slow this decline?
>Obviously the idea that we'd have a family of our own is an impossibility,
How ugly and or poor are you?
No such thing as destiny.
Because financial stability, health and being able to talk to people are already more than enough requirements met to find a partner.
>Demographic decline
Help improve conditions abroad, mitigate career pressure in the west so we actually have time to make kids
Probably average looks, improved somewhat to the upper end of average by my general fitness and build from working out. As for wealth, no more worse off than the rest of the working class.
>No such thing as destiny.
Of course there is. You think I sat down one day and made the consious decision to be a life-long virgin?
>Because financial stability, health and being able to talk to people are already more than enough requirements met to find a partner.
Maybe for people that aren't incels. If you are an incel then those positives are irrelevant, sort of like how if you're not an incel a massive list of negatives are not an impediment.
Did you try to go out and how high are your standarts?
>Did you try to go out
I go out every friday and talk with people from work and from the gym.
> how high are your standarts?
Why would I even have standards? I'm not even part of the game.
I see, it's your personality which is the problem. Touch grass and have sex, unironically. Go for a hike to reflect on yourself and fuck a hooker.
very racist of you mohamed
>it's your personality which is the problem.
Not at all. People enjoy spending time with me.
Look this isn't meant to be about me, but what people like me can do to help.
"People" or females?
Men shaped the world not by getting whores pregnant.
Both.
Go back to the subject, please.
You dont get pussy because your personality is shit and youre full of yourself retard
A man is but the product of his thoughts. What he thinks, he becomes.
You are a man, do what you want. Nobody really cares about you, at least not until you enter society in some form. Breakaway societies don't work long term, find inner peace alone or lead the society into an new era if you are truly willing to change things.
Nice circular reasoning you well-poisoning retard
>calling yourself an incel
>uses the term "dissident causes"
>unironically
Hello, fellow white persons, I too am a frustrated white male who can't get sex like the media keeps telling everyone(so it must be true). Want to be cool and blow up some federal buildings to vent our pent up sexual frustrations?
>muh demographics
>pay other men to bang other women
Better not improve yourself and stop being an incel so you can make your own babies despite being fit and healthy, oh no no no no my sweet summer child! You need to remain and incel and become a cuck on top of that by paying others to have kids and then paying to support those kids. End your line, now!
>Discuss.
Nigger tongue my anus.
Create something like self sufficient monasteries. When civilization crumbles like when Rome fell we will need your wisdom and resources to make it through hard times. You can shelter the families.
>because your personality is shit
Doesn't stop me making friends and getting on well with both sexes.
>and youre full of yourself retard
Ah, yes, seeing the truth of my fated undesirability means that REALLY actually seeing myself as TOO desirable.
This is why I do what I can to get people to improve their health and fitness, but since people know that I'm basically "long-term" single it kind of falls on deaf ears because, despite the commented improvements to my own health and fitness it's as if they don't see it as mattering because I'm an incel. It's frustrating.
Of course the german suggests having sex with a hooker. A act which defiles ones soul, invalidates purity lowers your self-worth all to drag yourself down to the same level as “normal” people. Having sex will not fill the void. You will come back after it feeling worse then ever and desperate to have “normal” sex to take your mind off it and “cleanse” yourself. For what? Are you going to have a family with the random one-night stands? Just to feel good for half a hour? To fit in? To boost your self-confidence? If you derive your self-worth and confidence from external matters/people I think you have bigger issues mentally that you aren’t dealing with.
Become “famous”, artist philosopher scientist it matters not. Make your legacy and tell the white normies to have more kids instead in your book. If the common material goals are no longer your concern, why not focus on the spiritual? I feel like there’s a sense of desperation in most virgins to “fit in” to be able to tell themselves “well maybe I’m a massive fucking loser but atleast I have had sex” to say they’re part of the very society that alienates them, akin to begging for the approval of somebody who abuses you. It reeks of weakness and impotency. Why are you trying to fit in? Why are you trying to be someone you’re not? If you feel confident and feel like you NEED to have kids no matter what. You can just rent a womb. Or you can just adopt them, raise them, teach them, make them into what you want while not crossing the line of forcing them, your ideas will live on.
Yes. Give me money so I can have more kids and buy acreage instead of a house. Gibsme ALLDAT
Incels should be forcibly married to SJWs by the state. Both groups will whine and pout no end in the beginning, but after a couple of years of forced marriage and with some kids they'll realize they both have it much better as family people than being mentally ill globohomofied shut-ins. Then, globohomo entertainment and education should be made illegal for their children, so they don't become as picky, entitled and delusional as their parents. Instead teach them that there's a place for everyone in the human hierarchy, and theirs is at the bottom.
>fit and healthy
Obviously you aren't, if you're incel. Plenty of very good looking women don't give a flying fuck about looks. If you really are healthy and fit then you can get laid and find love. Being an incel is so much more about your abhorrently self defeating personality than your looks. If you aren't a self loathing retard and you actually are fit and healthy then you can get laid. Height, nose, eyes, acne, etc. none of that shit matters by comparison. Just get some self respect and work on yourself. If you're super good at guitar you can smash girls weekly. You only have yourself to blame.
You are a "nice guy" a pure beta, the reliable guy which is kept around to do the shitty chores. Grow a spine and form your own will, all you do is giving excuses here. You are just a loser which is unable to overcome his own shitty mindset.
Honestly, if you don't have a micropenis, you should be fine. It takes time, OP. You'll find a woman who isn't complete and utter shit. And when you find a woman who doesn't make you want to constantly strangle her to death, marry her. Simple as
post your stomach and biceps, I doubt you're half as fit as you think you are. Stop fucking larping.
What terms should I have used then to describe men in my position?
>Want to be cool and blow up some federal buildings to vent our pent up sexual frustrations?
I disavow violence against others. It isn't society that made us "incels" but rather cosmic forced beyond our control or ability to ever change.
>so you can make your own babies despite being fit and healthy
But that's not going to happen, so what can we do with our fitness and health? The idea of paying for men that aren't incels to have more children, perhaps with numerous women, is a crude one I admit, but at least I'm proposing SOME solution.
>No such thing as destiny.
There kind of is. It's just not something metaphysical. The conditions you were born into and the instincts you have play the role of destiny.
And some men are "destined" to be alone, because of their instincts.
This is a redpill Any Forums does not want to swallow, so I won't go into too much detail, but the idea that every man wants an ideal monogamous family life has artificially been imposed on society by christian teachings.
People don't all have the same instincts.
This is true with other mammals and it is true with humans. Lions are a good example of this - some male lions in a pack breed with the females, some male lions only hunt, fight and support the pack and rarely breed. Usually the breeding and non-breeding males are brothers. Both accept this role.
Human instincts are more similar to lions than you'd think.
Then whats the problem?
Oh thats right youre a retard
It's funny how it used to be sort of frowned upon to bully guys who couldn't get laid, "losers", and now it's completely promoted and encouraged by everything including the msm. Things turned out so weird man.
you sound like an enormous pussy and a cringe faggot. nobody wants help from someone who can't help themselves first and foremost. i dont know how youre going to help "fund men to have kids more" and how that would ever work and who would even agree to that. the easiest thing to do is just have kids yourself and stop being a massive incel?
either overcome your own failings and work to be a better man, or kill yourself. stop using mental gymnastics and huffing on copium and excuses to make up for your own shortcomings.
Yeah, that's true enough. The problem is that globohomo post-modern society is based on many weird aspects of tinkering with people's natural instincts towards sexuality, their sex, relations to the other sex and so on. It does this to accomplish some very particular goals, but those goals are at complete odds with the instincts of many people.
Which results in a situation where a lot of low quality young men and women actually do have instinctual impulses towards family (most people do, after all) but this has pretty much become impossible to them due to the indoctrination and self-defeating hypnotic brainwashing they've suffered through their formative years and adolescence.
These men and women become extremely and progressively mentally unhinged, bitter and dysfunctional as time passes. They are the problem in this whole soup, not the men who have a genuine instinct that trends towards solitde, pioneering etc. Likewise for women, the problem group become rabidly feminist bitter wine-and-cat-moms, instead of settling as the wife of one of the complimentary male group as would have made them much more happy and functional in life.
There always have been “incels”, they used to be monks, soldiers, scholars, etc.
Now all these institutions have been erased or subverted, so the only thing left to do is to make money to fund good causes or to teach the coming generations.
Making children is important, but we need to take care of all the lost people that are already out there… otherwise we just throw them in this hellhole without any guidance, just to try to save our own ass