Isn't it true that Europeans and the Chinese both invented guns independently of each other?

Isn't it true that Europeans and the Chinese both invented guns independently of each other?

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omg this board is turning into yahoo questions

Chinese were the first to invent gunpowder, but Europeans were the first to invent single load firearms. The Chinese caught on before the opium wars and constructed their own single load firearms. Before then the chinese used them mainly for battlefield rockets.

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Chinese invent gun powder then do nothing with it because it isn't a disease ridden animal they can eat

It's true that chinese lied about their invention by saying "we wuz first!"

Not exactly.

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Always has been.

I don't know if "invent" is the right word, that implies intent. "Discover" is probably closer to the truth. I'd bet good money that the chink alchemist who first cooked it up was actually just trying to make boner pills like usual.

All the chinks ever did with gunpowder was make fireworks
They also had oceanfaring ships before Europeans, but the Emperor outlawed exploration

>Isn't it true that Europeans and the Chinese both invented guns independently of each other?
NO YOU RACIST FUCK,

BLACK PEOPLE INVENTED THEM, AND THEY INVENTED WATER

No, gunpowder is a really obtuse chemical formula so its hardly likely to be discovered at all if not for the magical/alchemical tradition in china where mystics spent thousands of years combining various elements and chemicals in tons of different ways to either create magic or achive everlasting life.

Without this sort of tradition, I have my doubts about black powder ever being invented.

>but Europeans were the first to invent single load firearms

No, firearms were being used in the Middle-East before the 14th century, which is when firearms are first recorded being used in combat by European armies. And the Middle-East probably got it from fighting the Mongols. Even the Chinese had rudimentary "rifles" that used gunpowder to propel projectiles.

Where Europe shone was doubling down on their autism and pushing firearm development further than any other civilization, which made a few innovations here and there, shrugged and said "fuck it, good enough".

>I don't know if "invent" is the right word, that implies intent. "Discover" is probably closer to the truth.

By that measure half the shit invented by Europeans might as well be classified as discoveries as they were mostly just happy accidents.

>By that measure half the shit invented by Europeans might as well be classified as discoveries
And? The difference is those discoveries were also followed up by invention. Some Greek in a toga discovered electricity, but nothing useful was done with it for millennia.

the chink alchemist was actually trying to make immortality lol. the chinks discovered the chemical reaction of "gunpowder" but to actually make gunpowder you have to combine it in the right proportions. The chinks apparently failed to do this for like 800 years (only making shitty fire arrows and "lances" with it) and it's unclear to me anyway who actually figured it out first because by the time it happened whites were pretty much already using guns.

Reminder that the chinese invented gunpowder as food. Look it upml.

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No, chinks put gunpowder down bamboo sticks then light it up. You need a projectile to make a gun. The Venetians added exactly this.

I mean don't get me wrong, if you're some fucking steppe barbarian you're going to cack your loincloth when people start shooting rockets at you, I'm sure they did their job. It's the total lack of improvement that gets me.

Firearms were literally invented because muslim are a pain in the ass. The Venetians were the first ones to use them then the muslims stole them.

Hi mr CIA kinda early today?

Firearms were one of the hidden knowledges in the art of killing passed down like many from the fallen angels.