Leaving the west

I'm so fucking done with the west. I want it to fucking die. I want to divorce the west and never have to deal with western bullshit "culture" ever again.
I used to browse this board and site daily from about 2009 till 2017, when Trump won I left because I didn't want to be one of those faggots that wastes the golden times not enjoying them. Man 2017 till early 2020 was so good. Things felt like they were getting better for fucking once. I am glad we had them.
But I can't take the west anymore, this is my first post in years simply because things seem worse now than they were in the awful 2012-2015 years. It's like society is going for a round 2 at the SJW/woke shit. Western women are an absolute fucking abomination that deserve nothing more than maximum misery for the rest of their lives, and most western men are total cucks and simps of the worst kind who cheer on their own demise and root for their enemies and rivals. I'm sick of Youtube commentators and podcasters hopping on board the trend of the downfall of the west and just being so indifferent or blaming men or just skipping past the big questions. And I am so sick of marketing based culture, data driven culture where fucking psychologists work really hard to make the world a worse place and give the elites even more tools to control us. What a horrible science, and speaking of science, I hate scientism and this absolute worship of authority that comes with being a scientist now. It's like you aren't even allowed to have an opinion anymore unless you have a fucking PhD. It's appeal to authority fallacy gone wild these last two years. Anyone with sufficient intelligence can argue for literally any point and make it sound right. Yet the average persons viewpoint is so fucking hated now.

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Jesus Christ the whiny bitchiness is insane. Go cry on plebbit you weakling

Before I left there were a whole bunch of anons here planning to move out of the west. Did any of you lads succeed and did any of you stay here? I've amassed the funds to leave but just need to tie up a few loose ends before I can go. I am so fucking over not only just being here in this miserable wretched shithole culture, but being taxed to pay for it all too. I hope I can help kill the western world by moving out and denying it my tax dollars. I tested a few third world nations out before covid hit and it was so good for my mental health and happyness not having any fucking propaganda being thrown at me, no evil advertising, no cultural mockery, social media in a different language, actual nice and sociable and kind people instead of cunty westerners and socially atomized non existence "communities".

Anyone else here moving or thinking of moving out? I will be back in like 15/20 mins to check replies. Have an oldfag image from 2013 Any Forums.

Also fuck the new captcha. Goddamn.

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They fear you user. They only win if you quit.

You sound like a little bitch and we’re all glad you’re leaving.

no please don't contaminate the rest of the world

Hey look it's a late-night psyops thread i see the cia monkeys have their reference notebooks on hand turned to page 666.

Well okay op, i hope you're doing fine in the office tonight making your microwaved macaroni and cheese, might I suggest some crumbled cashews and shredded fresh parsely to go with that, now, all you need to realize is stupid people eat poorly. All you need to know is vitamins don't cut it and are only an emergency supplement. In fact some people react badly to them. They aren't exactly regulated after all. Just consider the typical grocery store orange and mandarin should have mostly the same minerals and vitamins per unit mass. Why does the mandarin taste better? It is a luxury product, so it doesn'r face the same cuttthroat competition of orange farmers. As a result, it is less deficient in nutrients than the humble orange. Ah, but farm you your own orange tree for great good and find you a humble orange tastier then all the mandarins in the land - that store-bought mandarin was also farmed in depleted soil, not only in minerals but also in life. And did you seek out real oranges and mandarins may God have mercy on your fingernails because your will down then like no tomorrow. Likewise, a real tomato is truly something you rip off the vine and eat then and there.

What is the difference? 8x more vitamin A in a real orange than a store orange, and at least 2x more vitamin A and every other vitamin and mineral than a store orange, all for no other reason than all the soil is dead and all the minerals have been shipped to the city, only to return as fertilizer that becomes mostly runoff and kills the oceans and seas

What, then, do you eat in a good world? Perhaps one orange in the morning, a few melon slices for lunch, and a pear in the evening - and you have just consumed the equivalent, quite possibly, of a grocery store run's worth of fruit, all because store-bought food is so nutrition-free. Oh, and the real stuff tastes better

I left in 2018 and only came back because of the fake and gay virus. Gonna leave again as soon the doors open. Sneed.

You speak the truth. And if you have an honest chance at leaving then do it. I can't say for certain that a third world country would have the same quality of life as a first world one, but perhaps it beats the constant propaganda being thrown at you.
Then again, maybe you just need to disconnect from it all, and don't necessarily have to leave. No TV, no social media, no smart-phone, limit yourself to ~30 mins of Any Forums a day, just so you're not completely out of the loop.
Maybe that would enough to calm you.

Agree totally. If it was easy to leave, I would have already. Thought about becoming a digital nomad and traveling until I found a cool place. If that place is in America I haven’t found it yet

Which places did you test out? Others you want to try? Which ones were the best suited for you?
Obligatory what do you do question as well

>Then again, maybe you just need to disconnect from it all, and don't necessarily have to leave. No TV, no social media, no smart-phone, limit yourself to ~30 mins of Any Forums a day, just so you're not completely out of the loop.
This is definitely good advice

Now think what that means. You literally need to eat a grocery cart full to feel "full", and I'm not joking, a chard bundle for me could very well be five for you. Fruit is important, but even more so are veggies, as fruit can't compete with veggies for some vitamins. The natives used the humble squash for this purpose. Oh, what is a store sauash compared the thing, lest my soup be ruinéd - and real raw milk in that soup, and blended, with a real potato and a real apple and nothing else. You see, seasoning goes away in great part when you cook naturally, simply because even an overcooked blended squash soup with an acorn squash thrown in for scrumptious delight just can't be beaten - it's like sugar, but it's good for your, and it fills you with a single bowl, and your stop craving little snacks. Oh, and if you are lazy you can roast your squash and spoon it out, mmm, or do it like my mom and eat the whole damn squash, tough skin and all - hey, it's extra fiber. Your body doesn't care about counting calories. You just don't want to over-eat any more. You're full, psychologically, because your gut's brain tells you so. And parsely and thyme and sage and rosemary and so many other things replace your spices cabinet, not totally but you start noticing a surprising quantity of you breakfast fry is a bowl of chopped herbs. And garlic becomes easy ready to peel because even the garlic is fake at the grocery store - it's faster than chopping an onion, the way god intended.

Bumping for interest

>pic jew thinking.

im planning to in 2 years, just need to finish my studies and sell my house.

But they fund all this crap with my taxes. If we just stopped paying it would all collapse and then we can start anew from a clean slate.

Besides it really looks like the west will either collapse soon and China will take over hegemony anyways. Either economic collapse, of this cultural cold war will turn into a hot war.

Then fuck out of my thread dickheads. Stop being addicted to what you hate and filter it out.

You cant ever leave, the sooner you realize the sooner will be better for you.
Remember its just you and God so as long as you keep your soul not corrupted you win.

Everywhere i am is the best place and the best time and correct location.

For your tax complains that wont work USD is the reserve currency and dividends take 15% of tax auto from me so.

Then there is the global 15% minimum tax that was agreed.

The globohomo system will survive as a fact.

btw isnt it if you are born in America taxed till death no matter where you go?

>btw isnt it if you are born in America taxed till death no matter where you go?
they can renounce citizenship

Yes unless you give up your citizenship.
I heard taxrate in Russia is 13% for payroll

Now think further, my fellow bored at night psyop consultant. Your scraps go to compost, but some to to bone broth, and there they, as waste, become powder. Your fruit skins, boiled, become a scented vapor spreading through your house... and, as waste, are again as powder. Now you need to make like the medeivel Swiss and compost your own waste somehow, or make like the West Afrucans and copy them, and now your have an infinite nutrient supply for your soil from which you gain infinite and easy bounty just like god intended, so long as you take care to manage the humus, but that is a conversation for another time which, properly managed, can decrease labor expenses to 20% or less of rehab they would be otherwise to get that bounty. Then, of course, there is the Eurasian and American technology trade of the past ten millenia - who says you need to eat what you grew up with, maybe somebody's got something better. Ah now you have the homestead, at least as it was in a random Swiss valley a thousand years ago. You want a farm.

Thus, op, you have two choices. The first is to eat poorly, where you will surround yourself with losers who eat just as bad as do you. Or eat well, but no one will do the work for you - nothing is free, and what your save in labor you lost in poor nutrition (as does the farmer, by the way - they sell you their best and keep the scraps for themselves to save as much money as possible).

At this point you only need vitamin d, and you get that from fish skins and sun-dried mushrooms (you can rehydrate then afterward).

Come home white man... fleeing to the East is the only way to survive now.

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Am Slovenian, US gets 15% and .si gets the rest till 27.5% or 25% new law.

US is automatic from broker, .si i have to fill papers this month like a retard nigger.

Basically this
Where? Where are you going to run OP? You were born to the West. You have the right to demand things to be like you like only there. Anywhere you come you will be a foreigner devoid of the right to demand. You call out delusional trannies thinking they can be someone they aren't, but you don't see the delusion in yourself. You are who you are, you were born where you were. Only you can fix the things around you. Not only you can, you ought to. Nobody will if won't even try. It's the mentality of "I can always run" that brings the demose to us all. And it's what you are going to bring to the new place. Will it become better with such a quitter?
Besides the West still controls the narrative and the horrors you are running from will inevitably become universal.

To mini wurds in this thred

>they can renounce citizenship
forbes.com/sites/forbesfinancecouncil/2021/11/08/five-things-to-know-before-renouncing-us-citizenship-because-of-expat-taxes/?sh=545e35402deb
Haha check this out!
>4. Renunciation is irreversible.

>Once you’re caught up on expat taxes, present yourself before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer, pay the renunciation fee and sign an oath, then you’re detached from U.S. citizenship. However, once you renounce, it’s done. Getting back your citizenship will be irrevocable and irreversible.

Pure comedy.

Unless you go to Antarctica they will continue to use your taxes for clownish things. Is call globohomo for a reason.

Not reading your blog faggot, just kill yourself

Ah, look, the jew reveals himself. I offer words of aid and he spites me, thinking his audience will smile upon him - but he is alone, for this thread is, save for me, full of jews, and not many, but only OP and his name IPs.

More tasty food for me, I guess. Have fun feeding your children in jew paradise endocrine disruptors.

a fucking leaf

sounds like the plot to the start of a video game where you rekindle the spirit that everyone has lost and rebuild the community

>2017 till early 2020 was so good

wat

You have a utopian way of seeing it that doesn't hold true in the real world. I can go to Russia and learn Russian and get Russian citizenship and have the same rights as you and no one could ever know. Same for you and USA

These "western" countries will see a golden age soon, brother. Once the Zionist menace is removed the Aryan race and its culture will thrive. This is the place to be when that happens. Do not abandon your country and your people.

>If we just stopped paying it would all collapse and then we can start anew from a clean slate.
It does not work that way, printing money exists.
And since wealth is real and confiscatable. You do the math.

Am a pro at minimizing tax payment.

is israel part of the west?

I moved out of the USA to Russia (Eastern part), and I have been living here for about 1 month. It's different, but very tolerable. I am learning the language, not easy thus far.

Why did you come back? I wish I left before the virus. I got stuck with awful demoralizing lockdowns.

Yeah digital nomad is the way I am going to go as well. No one country is perfect but a basket of countries seems to be the way to go if you want to live free and without government interference and away from all this cucked western bullshit culture. The problem is it's expensive and the only real way to live like this is to be able to afford a tax haven passport and citizenship so you can truely so goodbye to western cuckery. I'm going that route, but you need to keep a couple hundred k in the bank for at least 6 months before they will look at you. One of the strings I am tying up now.

I tried Thailand and Malaysia and France. It's a shame France is on it's last legs because I liked it.

Thailand and Malaysia where really nice. I had more on my list but fucking covid fucked it all up. Still have to check out Eastern Europe and South America, the Caribbean, and finish taste testing South East Asia.

I've been preparing to leave for several years. I have the cash, I just need to get all my documents and other shit all done because I'm probably just going to renounce my citizenship and never return. I found the third world countries to be better despite their more dilapidated looks in some parts. There is like this soft freedom there because you aren't surveilled, people don't give a fuck, and if they do bribing is cop is easy and cheap, so you end up having a sort of de facto greater freedom than you do in the west, plus for all internet use, all ads and social media trending crap all think you are a third worlder so you get shown stuff that isn't even in English and while this doesn't sound amazing, it really is one of the best and most underrated joys in life to not be able to understand local social media or advertising. Currency conversion usually benefits you as well so this is an added bonus.