>Developed a philosophy that people are inherently flawed/fickle and so the best anyone can do is remember this at all times and act accordingly/don't take shit too seriously or treat much as sacred >Called bullshit on Platonism, said that the Forms were impossible even in the abstract because perfection is a total lie, everything is flawed especially relative to something else, any idea of perfection is arrogant elevation of ones own preference >Literally used to show up to Plato's talks and when he'd make a point, Diogenes would shit his fuckin pants and be like "oh yeah Plato I just shit myself what do you think about that?" >Lived in Athens around it's peak and still thought it was fake and gay, said fuck this, lived in a barrel with no possessions, the OG NEET >Told Alexander the Great to his face that he was a faggot and should shut the fuck up, Alex laughed and said he was a real nigga for this >Called the pomposity surrounding Greek theater out, said they were making way too big a deal out of an entertainment art form that we do for recreation, basically told Aristophanes to calm the fuck down it's legit just recreational leisure >Called the aristocracy faggots for sitting around while slaves did all the work and acting like they did anything other than sit around sucking their own dicks >Simultaneously said that the slaves deserved it though because they were useless retards like most people
Diogenes was the spiritual predecessor to Any Forums and the best western philosopher l. No one else comes close. He was right that most people focus on trivial bullshit and miss the point of life. The only one who may come close is Nietzsche, but he loses points because he cared enough to write shit down. I think Nietzsche would agree with me on that too. What say you?
degenerate just like anyone who believes the shit he said
John Gutierrez
There are no primary sources by Diogenes. One cant even be sure that Diogenes was a real person and not just an urban legend that was used as metaphor
Cooper Gonzalez
In a way, it is almost like Plato identified the Cave, and was so excited to tell everybody about it, whereas Diogenes had already left the Cave on day one and was like "ya bro, u srs? Ur just figuring this out? Shut the fuck up and smoke a j man" It reminds me a lot of us at times. When I meet budding young thinkers, or straight up midwits, they are always impressed with meta critiques of society, but then they don't commit and apply them. They know life is fake and gay but they still play the game working in middle management or whatever. And then when we are all living on the fringes of society relentlessly mocking, they're still like woah guys why are you doing this?
Jaxon Hughes
Alexander the Great called him out by name more than once. That's enough for me Pretend he's not exactly what you are
I like to imagine Diogenes with a Twitter account. How long would it last? 15 minutes?
Cooper Rivera
Fitting, I can't even be mad really
Eli Williams
It'd be one tweet. "You guys are all gay lol I'm out"
Isaiah Bailey
We don't even know what Diogenes taught, we only have fragments of other people telling about him.
Jaxson Smith
He would assblast Any Forums too and then go to masturbate publicly.
David Brooks
I believe them. Too many people we do have evidence of brought him up by name. Facts
Thomas Moore
i'd beat his ass
Eli Sullivan
You wouldn't do shit pussy
Jonathan Walker
no, you wouldnt do shit now leave me out of it
Daniel Gomez
>midwits You wouldn't happen to a plucked chicken would you
Isaac Moore
Most yogis at the time and still today love without possessions and go around asking for food. This is very much a Hindu tradition. Because they believe materialism was a foolish thing to cling to because it's temporary
Benjamin Torres
Pretty based.
Jaxon Ward
Yeah that's retarded
Josiah Roberts
It's the retarded truth though.
Brandon Collins
it is retarded for the sake of lack of competetiveness. Sure, it all goes back into the box once the game is over, when you die you no longer have use for your material belongings, however your children or grandchildren might still use it and so on.
this is for me the greatest problem and flaw with Diogeneses supposed ideas. It is inherently accepting to not amount to anything beyond living in a barrel because everyone is going to die one day anyway.
this is why diogeneses did not have children and his bloodline died with him and why nobody except OP and his ilk care for Diogeneses.
gay thread
Josiah Miller
and? Did he life a better life than the ones he hated?