Who Would Win In A War Without Nukes?

If no nukes were involved, who would win a conventional war? NATO+Ukraine or Russia?

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Nato has too much Airpower to lose to Russia

Depends on the objective. Russia already has military in Crimea for instance. NATO doesn't want a war despite posturing.

What does this mean?

without nukes NATO steamrolls them back to moscow and crimea is returned to its rightful owner, Israel

Doesn't Russia have a bunch of S400 anti air trucks though?

stealth jets plus drones deal with that easily, plus Economic power of all Nato countries dwarfs Russia's

Why do you say that Crimea belongs to Israel?

Lol all Putin got is literally saber rattling with nukes.

NATO obviously. Ivan would give them a go but once everything kicked over to wartime economy i dont think they could sustain it.
If China joined, then it would be a very long war.

Easily NATO, Russia isn't the Soviet Union. The European NATO members could even take Russia.

If nukes didn't exist I think America can beat pretty much any country within a few weeks. Could be wrong tho

What the definition of winning? If it's taking over the east of Ukraine then Russia without a doubt

stealth doesnt matter, they still have to either fire standoff weapons which are very much not stealth or they have to get up close and personal which will put them in range of even intermediate range anti air. drones could saturate the air but how many antiair missiles does russia have?

Just invade from Belarus and defend, basically encirclement. Starve Kiev out and mission finished. Also block the black sea coast. Nothing to fight for anymore for NATO.

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Russia will crush Ukraine as a forgone conclusion, if it has no Western support from NATO.

Khazaria was jewish.

Russia crushed Finland soooooooooo hard in Winter war.

Ukraine will win even without a Nato.
Those pathetic 200k picrels would be butchered.
Russia won't draft shit cause no one wants to return back home in a coffin for nothing.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a shill or just retarded.

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china could probably just bruteforce the whole thing. the have more soldiers and manpower than anyone on the planet

Fact, Finland is over-reliant on Russian gas, it could easily flip if Russia and Ukraine goes pan European. Which is why US SoF have been running training exercises on toppling a jaunta government.

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I agree, it was easier with Lithuania
Finland at least lasted 5 months

>US SoF have been running training exercises on toppling a jaunta government.

in an imaginary country called ""Pineland"" hmmmm what country could that be based on???

>it could easily flip if Russia and Ukraine goes pan European
Kek

none of them will conquer russia, but russia can conquer all of them.
none of the European powers managed to conquered Russia, defeated them in battle yes, conquer them ? no, keeps losing to winter and snow, kek

>“Of course, Russia and Nato potentials are incomparable,” Mr Putin continued, referring to Moscow’s military might compared with that of Nato. “We understand it,” he said, adding: “But we also understand that Russia is one of the leading nuclear states.

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Like Putin said incomparable. Its not fair fight.

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Abit hard for Finland to stay pro-Nato when Russia cuts the gas in the middle of winter. Why do you think Finland bought 64(!!!) F-35s at €9.4 billion!! Finland will be at the coal face on the business end, it will have to get it's hands dirty fast else, it's people will freeze to death.

We don't want to fight Russia for the Biden family fortune or the fortune of others in congress.
But if Russia insists, it's a matter of self-defense.
If Putin is smart, he'll avoid engaging American soldiers at all costs to prevent a gain of public support by the Biden regime.

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Nato but it will not go to war because Ukraine is not a member

Those who are blinded and wish for death will be free to go to the front lines and die.
Only makes the path clearer for those who wish for true freedom. The irony of the WEF is that their system has created a machine that will kill all of their supporters and leave a way for the rest to elevate their morale to a level only seen in Hitler's Germany - except this time, it'll rise from the grave and strike the heart of every man on the planet.

>muh gas

Why the fuck you faggots NEVER check the numbers before posting? Guess how much the Russian gas is from our total energy use? 6%.

Why would Nato get into war for Ukraine? We have no agreements and commitment to them. It's UKR RUS thing