At no time in history since the Time of Troubles has Russia been so weak in regards to both: >scope of geopolitical influence and >worldwide reputation/favorability Even though it was a complete trainwreck in the 90s, Russia still had way more geopolitical influence (the entire ex-USSR except for the Baltics) and was way more liked/respected worldwide than now.
For how long the >it was awful in the 90s, he fixed it narrative, on which Putin's entire support base revolves around, can hold? The 90s were 3 decades ago now. People aged 30 and below only ever remember Putin's rule. And objectively, it's been completely shit. One of the worst rulers in Russian history, probably. Unironically.
Reposting because: >already made 2 threads >received 600+ replies >still not a coherent answer
Cont. (important post): Before 2014, Russia's global posture was relatively stable and half-respectable (HALF-respectable, because of 1989-1991). Western governments came close to viewing Russia completely neutrally, perhaps even positively, while individual Western people totally empathized with Russian people and liked them (for who they are and because of Russian culture in general).
Ever since 2014 Putin has pushed Russia further and further into a status of a complete pariah despite the grand population of almost 150 million and natural wealth. It's a complete disgrace.
Which only begs the question: why do 2/3rds of Russians approve of him still? And this approval rating has stayed at this point for the last 20 years already, sometimes spiking to over 80%, sometimes weirdly so, like after the 2014 blunder (can only blame it on low IQ).
Syria Central African Republic and Mali are controlled by Russia. Prove me wrong.
Charles Campbell
apparently his mother is literally half Jewish and russians cope by saying that it was her dad who was a jew, not her mom. lmao.
putin is literally a quarter kike
ITT: copes away!
William Wright
Imagine being a tranny, like OP is, spending all day every day seething about Russia. What a life.
Isaac Torres
You got coherent answers. You just sperged out saying Armenia wasn't in their sphere of influence and that Russias main industries weren't privitized. You got caught showing you have no idea what you're talking about.
Austin Cooper
>spending all day every day seething about Russia im on my urlaub and just very curious about this from a sociological standpoint, so im very eager to hear a real answer. so far, no luck. so i'll keep trying.
Jeremiah Price
>it was awful in the 90s, he fixed it This seriously is the main reason. The russians were so traumatized by what happened in the early 90s after the collapse that they only trust Putin to run the show there. It also shows how little trust they have in politicians there.. and I mean, trust to even run the country in any even slightly stable way. It's basically Putin or nothing. The older ones also totally get off on the fact that Russia is mentioned in the news now all the time and is 'back as a player' on the world stage. Sadly.. this is just because it threatens everyone around them like a deranged, thug teenager. The younger Russians are not as big of fans of Putin as the old pensioners are. Someday.. Putin will go.. Russia will change.. but for now he has a lock grip on the entire country.
Adrian Garcia
he's no better than zognald, he imports churkas into Moscow and completely dismantled all Slavic nationalist groups. it's literally shills and retards that praise him or call him based on Any Forums
Alexander Williams
They weren't privatized, they were oligarchized. Proper privatization is divvying up state assets among people who are unrelated to the state and continue to be so. This is Poland.
Anything else is what happened in Russia, Ukraine. Controlled dismantling of the USSR. It's an obvious fact that no Russian would argue with, just you, a miserable shill.
Kayden Richardson
>they only trust Putin to run the show there its not hard since he keeps killing/shutting down the only serious opposition even before its born
Adrian Sanchez
What can you not understand? That your retarded president is buried in our soil? Or Russia is being in the western news 24/7 now. Or that Russians will eat grass as long as it could harm west. And liberalcucks could scream about how they won't fight for Russian oligrachy yet when guys in military uniform will ring their doorbell under orders of the local military district, everyone will be conscripted even the fags.
Isaiah Gomez
You've already made this shithread faggot. Get a real job.
Asher Green
Putin will be gone in 2024. I guarantee it. Well, it is clear that they will put a pawn from his clan. But I'm more concerned about how the attitude of the NPCs of the west will change. West says that changing talking heads is a good thing. What will the Western media say when they see the new face? I'm very curious.
Nolan King
>Proper privatization is divvying up state assets among people who are unrelated to the state and continue to be so. That's what happened retard. They then got bought from those people by oligarchs. That's how they got their power. Again, you prove how much of a hislet you really are. >Anything else is what happened in Russia, Ukraine. Controlled dismantling of the USSR. It's an obvious fact that no Russian would argue with, just you, a miserable shill. You had people taking advantage of a chaotic situation that allowed corruption to fester. Sorry you can't refute this point retard.
Hunter Thompson
i don't have to
Angel Ortiz
He will rule until 2036 because thats what he decided, and you vill like it, you pathetic russian bootlicking doublethinking ever-coping slave mentality sheep. here:
Mason Howard
> Why do Russians still approve of Putin? Oh do they, lol?
Henry Collins
>They then got bought from those people by oligarchs damn, where did these oligarchsTM come from and where did they get the money to buy these assets from these unrelatedTM people from?
can you buy these oligarchsTM in any oligarchsTM shop? (old related meme hehe)
Luke Butler
Will you spam your dogshit thread the entire day?
Jason Wilson
>Well, it is clear that they will put a pawn from his clan This is true. The west knows that not much will change there until the people rise up and demand fair elections, etc. Putin will still guide his new president pawn likely until Putin 1) dies.. or 2) gets dementia or something. As long as the oligarchs and their allowed leader (currently Putin) 100% run the show, the west will still be skeptical. In time, I think the younger, educated Russians will either leave the country if nothing changes, or people will protest again and get tired of the fact that their presidents are basically authoritarians. It's up to the young Russians.. the old pensioners see Putin as a god-king.
Colton Lopez
Until I get a reply. Im allowed by the rules because if a thread is shitted up with off-topic, it can be re-made.
Angel Foster
>Why do Russians still approve of Putin? Propaganda. Russians live in a completely different reality than we do. They have a narrative of victimisation by foreign powers, the populace has been conditioned to live under total siege mentality. Whatever happens, Russia is the victim, and their actions are justified in response to perceived threats.
Chase Harris
You wouldn't know it, but all the shares of state-owned companies were given away to people. They didn't know what to do with them, so they sold them for next to nothing. If anyone keeps a privatization check from the '90s, it's worth $200k.
Alexander Rogers
Because russians are fucking stupid and dumb. Smart minority hates pupin.
The commies had propaganda and controlled everything. Yet we never bent over to them. First came the protests of 1956 (they came before the hungarian protests), then 1968, then 1970, then 1980. Formation of the Solidarity, the commie government giving in for a while and making concessions, a 10 million strong independent movement at the height of "communism," later crackdown, a few years later backing down and The End.
Basically, propaganda doesn't work when the living conditions are shit. Russians probably just use other fuel than humans, who use food. Russians probably need just a sensation of national pride (that's based on cope, anyway)
Noah Walker
This is true.. I actually know a few Russian people..older and younger. The older ones are 100% convinced, and its burnt into their brains.. that the west is trying to destroy Russia and that Russia is like a kid in school that is constantly bullied but 100% innocent. It's what their media feeds them 24/7. The younger ones see other news sources on youtube and other web sites and have a more mixed feeling on it.
Carson Reed
you didnt answer the question
Levi Ross
Why are you wasting your time talking about a weak, uninfluential country? You don't see anyone discussing Somalia or Poland do you?
Brayden Adams
Intelligent people are inquisitive.
Lincoln Butler
map is wacky Should have add Brits (still breathing), Turkey, India and others. Overestimated U.S influence in Caucasus, more of Russia and Turkey there.
Elijah Ortiz
Why would you need to be convinced to know that usa is on crusade against us? It's obvious to anyone since 2014 when ukraine went up in flames
Leo Williams
Кaкиe жe пoляки дeгeнepaты пиздeц пpocтo.
Hunter Murphy
also this France is losing it in Africa. To Russia and China as I know, maybe someone else.
Michael Flores
No hope for the future and fatalism drowned daily in escapism, may a real Rus state emerge someday
Suddenly I realized that I don't know the name of the president of Poland
Elijah Bailey
>Smart minority hates pupin. I agree with this. There is a difference of opinion on Putin between the older pensioners out in the smaller cities and villages, vs. the well-educated elites in St. Petersburg and Moscow. And again, a lot of the young have mixed feelings on Putin. But in general these days, a lot of Russians are just apathetic about politics. They say "nothing will change.. why bother" and it's true for now. Someday.. things will change but it will take the younger generations to do it.
Chase Cooper
Duda
Jordan Young
Biden.
Levi Long
How bad does Russia have to fuck up to push Vietnam into fucking America’s arms of all countries?
Gavin Perry
It's not about the Russian people.. it is about Putin specifically and his authoritarian system. The Russian people.. like basically any people in general in any country, are by and large good people. Authoritarian systems always play the "crybully" card. They bully other countries around them while claiming they are the victim. China does this too..well the CCP I mean.
Grayson Miller
It can't offer anything, because it's a poor and missmanaged colony state
Jayden Johnson
joseph biden is president lmao
Ryder Jackson
Putin is richer than any Russian in history except maybe the tsar I don't know. Lol cucks
Liam Morales
>Should have add Brits where? >Turkey maybe. but just Azerbaijan >India where? >others who? where? >Overestimated U.S. influence in Caucasus Russia lost any influence it had over Armenia in 2020. Armenia is headed to side with America eventually, positioning itself re. Turkey in the same way that Greece does. Azerbaijan is Turkish influence and Turkey is NATO therefore = American influence overconsumption of RT was diagnosed. there are some "Wagner" (?) units (just kidding, I know who they are, but thats basically how irrelevant they are) in Mali but France has its actual conventional military. to see how Wagner units fare against a conventional military of NATO, see the Battle of Khasham
Brody Thomas
the president is irrelevant. its the leader of the party who rules the country, and that is Kaczynski (jaroslaw, not the Lech who died in 2010)
Kayden Myers
I used to know a lot of Russians, students mostly. Even when they were otherwise intelligent they still had this persecution complex. For instance if a Russian athlete gets caught using doping, it's just a western ploy to slander Russia. They will never admit any wrongdoing on their part, it's always bounced back at the evil westerners.
This was about 10 years ago, nowadays I don't meet any Russians. Their country has turned extremely insular, it's becoming a North Korea tier state with strong Putin's personality cult.
Anthony Gray
This sounds like jealousy to me. I get it, you hate ivan. If Putin wanted, your country would cease to exist. You want others to hate Putin because you are an aussie boong and you know you need your boong mates to mob him.
You know how you deal with boongs? you deck the mouthy cunt first. If there is ever a war, you are the mouthy coon.
Worry about your own shit, Putin doesnt give a shit about you or Poland.
Jason Diaz
That’s not the point - the point is that Russia and Vietnam had a very hood relationship until the late 70s, and Russia rekindled that relationship in the early 90s. What happened to make Vietnam decide it was safer from China in America’s arms than in Russia’s? Also, Vietnam very much has a lot to offer in terms of geopolitical positioning alone.
