The Biden stole the election conspiracy makes no sense,...:

I know everyone always says that Joe Biden stole the election because the Establishment was afraid of Trump.
But this doesn't make sense.
If this is true, then why didn't Hillary Clinton steal the election in 2012? Clinton is even more experienced and way more corrupt than Biden, but she just chose to have a fair election instead?
This is why I dont think Biden stole the election.

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The truckers are stealing the world back . Honk honk mother fuckers.

You underestimate just how unlikable Hilollery Clinton is

Clinton didn’t have to steal it because she wasn’t running and everyone hated Romney.

Sure. Neither is Biden. However, that would not stop him from cheating. So, why did Clinton, someone who assassinated opponents all the time decided, "Well darn it, I'm not gonna cheat!"

*2016 not 2012.

>unlikable
Now it's any democrat. That party has gone to complete shit; all that remains of it are the the extremists.

Because they thought the conditioning campaigns already worked and rigging wasn't needed.

They were so confident Hillary wouldn't lose that when they tried to cheat, it was already too late

pic very related

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>But this doesn't make sense.
it also doesn't make sense because Trump governed like any uniparty stooge and had the same policies of endless war for israel, spreading globohomo degeneracy and implementing massive corporate socialism as biden and obama and bush and clinton.

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they didn't anticipate a trump win, and the 2016 election didn't have an opportunity that covid lock downs offered with volunteer ballot review restrictions and mail on ballots.

Obama ran in 2012 brainlet you’re a disingenuous idiot.

>steal the election in 2012
because the elites thought it funny to put obama in to spite hillary for thinking she was a player
>DIA ran interference on hillary's "sure thing" e-vote cheating to remind deep state they were still a player at the table

>Your honor, if I allegedly stole this car Friday, why couldn't I have stolen it Thursday?
Leftists are fucking stupid.
Sage this shit thread.

>they didn't anticipate a trump win
they installed trump as president. he is controlled opposition

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Trump is someone people were willing to cooperate with each other to cheat him out. Cheating to get Hillary in is way less motivating for the average person.
The cheating was not only a few people in key places- it was thousands of people voting more than once, harvesting ballots and removing Trump votes from the batches etc. Lots of of average libtards participated in it.

That's the difference

Free and honest elections never existed. Only the right guy gets elected, even Trump.

lol she did you fucking newfag, they just fucked up and had to ditch the plan because Trump was receiving too many votes. Hillary blocked the audit after Jill Stein called for one

Their bubble wasn’t popped yet and they didn’t have a reason to instate mail in voting like they did. Mail in voting is cheating. If you can’t physically vote at a station, you don’t deserve to have a vote. You can sit here and argue all you want about that, but I really don’t care what you have to say because my answer is that democracy is for retards and we need to make it harder for people to vote, not easier.
That said, elections are won not just through voting, and Trump failed there. From a historical perspective, Biden won fair and square because Trump was unwilling to go the extra mile. Republicans need to learn how to act like their friends across the aisle when it comes to electioneering, protesting, and just generally getting what they want.

Obama is a lead operative and after 2008 became on a different scaler higher than Hillary. Obama gave the order to not rig Georgia after they were first caught in 2016, btw. Obama is literally lead General.

>it happened, but it didn't, because it didn't happen before
Also -
Did you notice a difference in how people voted in 2020?
Would a surprise upset lead to a change their methods?
Is having the entire legacy media establishment, in print, tv, film, internet, etc. against one person in a two-person race a fair election? Does that not constitute a form of voter intimidation or coercion? Do you think some people thought that was enough?
Does Joe Biden really strike you as a candidate able to command the most votes in history? Despite your political opinion, do you not feel Obama or Trump had more fire in their electorate? Doesn't Biden seem more like a Kerry, or a Dole, enthusiasm-wose?

Fuck jesuits and jews.

Hillary tried stealing/rigging the election
Didn’t expect Trump to have that much support
Trumps team counter-rigged the results to show the legit results of that election

That’s why the premature Hillary celebration was prepared.

They could only switch a small percentage of votes the way they were previously doing it and underestimated how unlikable Hillary is and how much Trump was liked. They became more brazen out of necessity in 2020.

>why didn't Hillary Clinton steal the election in 2012
Because they were legitimately shocked that Trump won. They had a lot of time to make sure they had a plan and undermined the voting system as much as possible in 2020. They went all out with the fraud because of how angry and embarrassed they were.

Because it was easy to cheat with Mail in ballots. They never really expected Trump to win, because he was way down in the polls.

WHAT?? They absolutely tried for Hilary lol.. ((bbuh buh muh popular vote) but they didn’t have the right people in place of the electoral college.. they doubled down and made sure they had their people in place, In BIDENS own words “ I don’t need you to get me elected but I’ll need you once I’m elected”

They misjudged her unpopularity and didn't have riggers in place

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>why didn't Hillary Clinton steal the election in 2012?

You mean 2016? In 2016 they definitely were trying. Broward County in FL and Philly in PA were both working on the same exact shit we say in 2020, but for some reason they put a stop to it in the middle of the night instead of continuing until they cheated enough.

>Mail in voting is cheating
mail in voting is a long established practice in many states
also the votes are just a show because israel appoints the top goy, not the voters
>Would a surprise upset lead to a change their methods?
so the DNC planned covid and trump's response to it?
>Is having the entire legacy media establishment, in print, tv, film, internet, etc. against one person in a two-person race a fair election? they arguably have more media power since only cuckservsatives are dumb enough still watch cable news cuckservatives have plenty of red flavor media koolaid like Fox and breitbart and OANN
>Does Joe Biden really strike you as a candidate able to command the most votes in history?
No, but not-Trump is definitely able to command the most votes and Biden got to be not-Trump.
not that it matters because the votes are just a reality tv show

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>way down in the polls

Imagine thinking most polls are legitimate.

Because OP, it's retarded

Just like Trump supporters are retarded.
They'll get hit by the same con by a less than mediocre painfully obvious conman and then defend him like he's their uncle.
They aren't well.

In 2016 Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million
In 2016 trump said "3 million people voted illegally!"
What a coincidence.
Then trump had a special investigation into the election to find the 3 million he made up..
And they found nothing. As always.
Because voter fraud was never a real issue, it was always a made up issue created to trick dumb southerns, when the reality is that is has been extensively studied for 20 years, and the results are always the same.
It's minimal numbers, which are Always found and prosecuted.

2020.
Trump says "if I lose that means it's rigged!" 6 months in advance. In story telling that's called foreshadowing.
As if the president has no power to try to ensure election security isn't high.

He loses, and like a retard says words of war, proving what a patriot he really is: "they stole it from you."
From there it's very simply conspiracy theorists finding half truths to create "evidence".
Yet for some reason all the evidence that Trump attempted to come up with has been completely disproven.

It's retard level, no fucking duh shit that made people call trump supporters a cult for years now.

They tried to steal the election for Hillary too. There was widespread voter fraud in that election as well, it just wasn't enough because they did not accurately predict Trump's turnout. You have to keep in mind that stealing elections isn't an exact science, because fraudulent votes have to compete with the unknown variable of legitimate votes. In 2020, they went all out, too much so, since it became obvious that they were stealing it. But they got away with it so from their perspective it was worth it.

>Hillary blocked the audit after Jill Stein called for one

I forgot about this. It was so awesome thanks for reminding me. Liberals gave her all of the money because they thought she would override Trump's win.

While I agree that voting is pointless, idc if they have it set up. If you can’t physically go to the ballot box unless you’re traveling for work, then you don’t deserve a say in our government. Not everyone is equal, and I’m tired of acting like they are. Voting age should be 21 as well.

>Liberals gave her all of the money because they thought she would override Trump's win.
yea same with the retards who donated to "stop the steal" in 2020. This is because blue uniparty voters and red uniparty voters are the exact same breed of subhuman.

I always felt Hillary was too proud to steal it. She wanted to win it legitimately and that’s why it burned so bad when she lost.

I know this makes no sense, and sounds retarded.

Except over half her votes come from people who don’t matter and shouldn’t have a say. Same with Biden. Boomer McBoomer in Montana is unironically worth 10x the vote than some stupid bitch working in HR Ops from her pod in LA.

I feel like multiple řevolutions and uprisings a year after the fraud was proven and accepted is a damn good indication that Trump didn't lose anything. Biden certainly isn't winning either, he's destroying the entire democratic party and guaranteeing a Trump win in 2024, and it won't even be the same people that voted for him last time, it's going to be all the dying people with no other option now because they've realized they've made a mistake. That mistake costs us all 2 years, and I don't think anyone is willing to waste any more time on the losing battle. Biden won a useless title, but lost the war on people's minds.

They didn’t have an overhyped pandemic and illegal mail-in voting in 2016.

Given the polls, they assumed there was no need to steal the 2016 election. Trump was losing by basically every metric in the polling, and there were expectations of an electoral blowout that would flip even hard red states. Go rewatch the compliations of people predicting Trump's loss in 2016. The sheer level of stupidity in every single prediction (predicting states like Missouri and South Carolina being solid blue) suggests they really thought Clinton was so secure it wasn't an issue.

Yeah, the entire theater is going to be Trump heroically coming back from exile and being anointed the next Reagan. Then they’ll all cheer because he’ll fire Psaki and the swamp will officially be drained. Politics is theater and I really don’t care to vote unless it’s for someone calling for these peoplesz’ heads. All of them.

>Biden can't have done something because Hillary didn't.
Nope. Also,
Hillary tried twice and got defeated both times because she is so unpopular.

Cope nigger

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She did try to
This has been discussed here before
Trumps popularity was unexpected so she and her party didn’t cheat enough
Where as Biden had to cheat to such an obvious level that everyone could obviously see it