What advice would you give to men over thirty who don't have their life together?

What advice would you give to men over thirty who don't have their life together?

Have any older anons managed to turn their life around (i.e., finding a decent job, gaining financial stability, independence) after the age of thirty?

I think this is political because more men than ever are growing up in an atomised society without a father figure, in an era where the average joe can't expect to live a decent life on an average income. There are a lot of men aged 25-35 today who are struggling to make it in the modern world.

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fuck off to Any Forums faggot OP

fuck you faggot. go cry MODS

I gave up and became a NEET. I make more money and have less stress now.

There still probably 10 years left on the clock, which is 10 more than women typically have.
Direct advice is always best given by wise people who know you personally.

>What advice would you give to men over thirty who don't have their life together?
Discipline and moderation.
>Have any older anons managed to turn their life around (i.e., finding a decent job, gaining financial stability, independence) after the age of thirty?
Yes, but it requires them to get in shape, stay disciplined and keep trying regardless of setbacks.
Set goals and don't give in to you meet them or find out it's not attainable.

define "together"?

Be in a constant state of improvement and evolution.

Waste less.

It hard (but not impossible) to do it alone, so put yourself in the company and relations of like-minded people.

Stable would be together, anything above that is improvement.

Most importantly:
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR

define "above that".
wanna make sure you're not a dullard that thinks a man's life is based on society instead of the other way around.

>wanna make sure you're not a dullard
>Define "Stable"
You're fucking idiot.
It means not wanting or having to do without, fucking mongoloid.
living within ones means for the things that are necessary while bettering yourself for those things your want.

Not living hand-to-mouth
Having ownership of something of objective value
Being able to produce and raise a child that will not be a degenerate drag on society

i wasnt raised to work in a digital world

i can waste time in it, but cant make money from it

Boomers will just tell you to work harder.
>t. millenial

>Boomers will just tell you to work harder.
No, idiots will tell you to work harder, stable people will tell you to work smarter, reeducate if needed, and move to better locations because you situation is completely in your control or your lack of doing.

develop a marketable skill asap

There is no advice to be had. It's over. Nothing but age bias/discrimination await.

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materialism is nigger.
the only thing that has objective value is your soul.
thank you for admitting that you're a dullard and can't read.

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I feel you, but if you can waste time you can mange it, there's tutorials on how to make money online, mostly drop shipping or other shit like that, but if you want to make money off it you really need to learn to code.
Hell Amazon allows you to make money off their mechanical turk program.

Theres too many people with the same skills.

Give up

How can you judge anyone else's situation, though?
You are applying your own standards to others, when you don't know their circumstances.

this

Improving by yourself is so fucking hard. I live alone and it's a struggle sometimes to not just sit here all day. But if someone I love is around (family, friends, gf, whoever), I want to do well to impress them and also make things good for them. Living for other people is the key user. I mean that