Meanwhile at the NATO headquarters

>They would need to disarm and be balkanized much futher before the us allows their existance.
Truth.

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>UN managed to introduce a lot of circumcision and feminism and christianity into South Korea.
And the commies introduced Karl Marx's works into China and in doing so, destroyed China, just like the Bolsheviks destroyed Russia.
At least in South Korea and Japan today, the folks there have the choice to worship whatever religion they want, and arguably live an individual life without their government breathing down their neck and telling them what to think and how to think.
(Come to think of it, that commie crap really is sneaking into Leafland because of Trudeau and his commie minions...)

>In the 00's we were ready to join NATO and the West in general. That was the perfect opportunity for the US to simply incorporate us into their alliance. It makes zero sense that they didn't take this opportunity and instead forced us to align with China
Why do people often blame the USA without acknowledging there are two sides?
Personally do not the USA is to blame in many situations, yet folks often just blame them.
The point here is: Russia had a choice -- and they chose Putin.

Just like Putin has his own choices and he *chose* to invade Georgia, he *chose* to invade Crimea, he *chose* to invade eastern Ukraine. During all of those years, Putin could have *chosen* to work with his Western counterparts, but he did not.

There's a two-way street here: "the West" and their allies, are not to blame all the time.

Personally would have really enjoyed to live seeing Russia integrated with the European community, just like Poland and others have, and just like Ukraine is trying to do now -- but Moscow continuously intervenes in Ukraine.
And that's also frustrating: many folks look at the "Colour Revolutions" in Ukraine, yet they fail to acknowledge Russia has it's own manipulative interference in countries, too.
Personally think many people get manipulated by RT News and others, and become an anti-USA without stepping back to look at both sides.

NATO should publicly back Beijing on the territory beyond the Amur and Ussuri rivers

>Why did NATO push us into China's hands?
>Give us EVERYTHING and MAYBE we won't back China
You serious? Who is dumb enough to take that after so many democrat resets?

>and in doing so, destroyed China
If they obey you they are good goyim.
If they defy you, they are lost and dead to you.

Some Americans told you the Chinese destroyed China, then it must surely be true!

>The us doesn't take allies. They follow a zero sum strategy where everyone needs to be their vassal and obey their every whim.
Not true.
>Truth.
Preposterous.

Living in Canada know very well that there have been numerous occasions where Ottawa has had confrontations and diplomatic disagreements with Washington and in many cases, Washington does not "win" all the time.
Yes, Washington has larger and arguably has greater influence, yet Canada still exists and is not taken over.
And that's the difference!
---> If the USA was Russia, Canada would have been annexed by now.
You see?
That's how Russia "plays" the game.

USA could easily "annex" Canada, or acquire territories here, or territories there, but they don't!
That's the difference!

Man, so many of you folks are seriously too far with your anti-USA perspective you're unable to see clearly.

Admittedly, one of the "weaknesses" of "the West" is the free press. In Russia and China, Putin and Xi can do anything and say anything and the people think they are governed by "gods" -- here, "we" citizens of "the West" all know our politicians are scum.
Why do folks in China and Russia think their politicians are "gods?
They're manipulated.
And it's astounding -- no, hilarious -- when Westerners look at Xi and Putin and think they're "gods" or any better than they're own politicians.

Xi and Putin are tyrants.
They're career politicians.
No, they're welfare recipients ---> living off of taxpayer's money with a "job for life" as the "great leader"
In other words: *scum*!

>NATO should publicly back Beijing on the territory beyond the Amur and Ussuri rivers
How about NATO publicly announce support for Taiwan... During the Beijing Olympics!

... Boom!
Hehe.

>Canada still exists and is not taken over.
White privilege. It will come to you soon either way.

>Some Americans told you the Chinese destroyed China, then it must surely be true!
Ridiculous.

Have personally been to Hong Kong and mainland China and have talked with many people over there. Anyone who has been to both places knows that people from Hong Kong were different than the mainlanders. Beijing's communism makes all people it governs think the same and become a giant blob.

They're "The Borg" from Star Trek.
See image.
That's what Communism/Marxism creates ---> "The Borg" mind.

>White privilege. It will come to you soon either way.
Again, that "white privilege" rhetoric is a Marxist idea.
Canada has been "diverse" for decades and only recently "leaders" have made "identity" a major political issue because they've been indoctrinated into, "The Borg" mindset.

They are *not* "Classical" Liberals; they do not believe not support individual liberty. They're classists = socialists. They promote group-based policies and destroy the individual.

Again:
All that matters here is the juxtaposition: USA [Russia] - Canada [Ukraine]
See the difference?
In one relationship, the larger state annexes the smaller; in the other relationship, there's arguably a mutually beneficial relationship.

>They're "The Borg" from Star Trek.
>See image.
>That's what Communism/Marxism creates ---> "The Borg" mind.
Image.

That image is Beijing's communism, and all forms of "Marxism" (or: "Classism")

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>Why did NATO push us into China's hands?
Because our government is controlled by Silent and Boomer Generation neocons who still think it’s 1985 and Russia is Muh Evil Empire about to roll through the Fulda Gap with a bazillion T-72s and BMPs. See: John Bolton.

The anglo grows increasing irate and rambling as he loses control and possession

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>implying it’s not managed for a special group to benefit
>what is their Middle East Silk Road project

We tried working with the West, but the West simply said they wanted nothing to do with us. After the collapse of the Union, we tried to join the EU and NATO as well. They said that we aren't welcome and never will be. Then we asked for NATO to at least disband since its existence is practically a statement that the West still regards us as enemies. They told us that will never happen. Having been refused so many times, we had no choice but to distance from the West as well. It was obvious they didn't want to work with us.

>A China + Russia alliance is not at all surprising.
And you say mutt education is bad. Throughout the Cold War, the USSR had more divisions parked on its border with China than it did facing NATO. Russia has never liked or trusted China. Although after being snubbed by the west for so long they seem to be willing to let that go as a matter of national survival.

Even if they did think we were still evil and all, they had to see that having us in NATO like Turkey would be much easier than to force us to act on our own. And surely it was impossible not to notice China and that it became practically the only option we had been left.

The West needs a war. Inflation is rising.
War is a good way to get the attention away

It's America's ego. After wining the last cold war they think that It's their "superior way of life" that let them win, which is why they see themselves as superior and don't have to give any concessions to anyone (not even Russia which could have been an ally against China), and actually believe that they can take on both Russia and China at the same time and win