Nazism through the lens of modern politics

WHY are nazis bad? is EVERYTHING about them bad? are MOST things about them bad? is it the combination of these bad things all together that make them so bad, meaning that individually each one wouldn't be bad on its own without the others? or are only a FEW things bad about them, but those things are SO BAD that they are inexcusable alone? the answer is different depending on who you ask of course, and most people haven't even thought about it before. but they all have a subconscious opinion or belief about nazis whether they know it or not. here's some general well known facts about nazis that people like to throw around:
>government was a complete authoritarian federal state with the most complex set of beaurocratic rules, regulations, paperwork, records, offices, and of course enforcers the world has ever seen (sidenote: most first world countries today have more than 10x that amount of pointless beaurocracy). protest of policy was punished even more severely than violation of policy to create a culture of fear that keeps most people from expressing non-state-approved opinions
most people will claim to hate this when asked in the context of history, but apply it to their everyday modern life and slap a different culture onto it and they're all for it. many will say they "wish it wasn't necessary but desperate times call for desperate measures" or something similar. they are terrified of the idea of a government they disagree with having that kind of power, but perfectly willing to hand it over to a government who tells them what they want to hear.
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>cont
>economy was national socialist, meaning a "free" market of capitalists are allowed to exist and benefit from federal funding so long as they agreed to follow the strict regulations in place
this is the part that most neo-nazis like to ignore, and if they're honest they'll tell you they disagree with it. most leftists and centrists have no clue about nazi economics, but if you described that to them without context, most would say it sounds fine or even good.
>culture was centered around ancient german and roman traditions, with a strong reliance on protestant christianity as the moral backbone of society
this is the part about nazis that most unintelligent people hate more than anything. the pride in ones race, culture, traditions, and history is considered contemtable by most of mainstream society these days.
here's the funny part: almost nobody just straight up hates everything (or loves everything) about nazis.
far leftists: love nazi government and economy but hate nazi culture
center leftists: love nazi economy but hate nazi culture and government
center rightists: love nazi culture but hate nazi economy and government
far rightists: love nazi culture and government, hate nazi economy
>tl;dr nazism isn't black and white, almost no one is more than 2/3 nazi or less than 1/3 nazi
>inb4 you're wrong because [i or someone i know of] is an exception to those generalizations!
learn how to read generalizations without letting your ego internalize them, you'll be a happier person

cos socialism is bad.

also murdering and torturing civilians is not great

They lost. This is failed ideology.

America could use a couple of good nazis right now. I'm sorry that America chose to prove hitler right. I really am.

There is no such thing as a failed ideology. Ideologies just come and go depending on the circumstances.

Both nationalism and socialism are retarded. Being a nazi combines both of that. The only system that leads to wealth and prosperity is a merger of patriotism and capitalism.

>also murdering and torturing civilians is not great
Yep, thats why the holocaust happened, jews did just this too Ukrainian Christians

I would say this is death cult then. Detrimental to nation wellbeing. When war went to shit, instead sorroundering and salvaging of what was left of vountry, they literally fought to last 14yo berlinian boy.
Did it accomplish anything? No, it only culled bravest man. They got fucked by commies anyway.
Turns out that putting all faith in mentally ill parkinson meth addict might not have been best idea.

Most people don't even know what happened in Germany throughout the 1920's and 1930's and almost everyone you might ask would not be able to name Nationalist Socialist policy. A lot of people think that Hitler forced everyone to read Mein Kampf and brainwashed them and took power that way, most people have no idea what his speeches and debates were about and just think that he stole the election. Normies don't have a clue when it comes to Nazis, just that they hated everyone without blonde hair and blue eyes (wrong) and loved killing for no real reason. My transformation from normie to slight less of a normie started when I learnt what the Katyn massacre was, and how it was blamed on the Germans until the cold war, then it was revealed that it was actually the Soviets; learning this revealed to me that historians, journalists and politicians are all spin doctors who have no morality.

wasted trips, kill yourself you dumb slav

>losing a war against the collective rest of the world means your ideology doesn't work
maybe stick to cleaning toilets user

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How about dont waging wor against whole world then? Ever thought of that?

National socialism is bad because it cannot survive without wars and conflicts with other countries in general. Its based on competition between races rather than their cooperation. It worked when countries were less developed technologically and wars were a less costly thing. But now the world cannot handle another big conflict.

The only reason they lost is because the Allies commited war crimes to win. They essentially genocided half the german population.

This is something all fans of National Socialism in Germany refuse to accept. Germany effectively forced a war on itself specifically because the nationalist ideology left them no choice but engage in warmongering throughout their entire existence.

he didn't, the kikes ganged up on germany because he rejected (((debt-backed international banking))) in favor of production-backed state-issued currency, poland was an excuse
but a butthurt pole will ignore that and just do mental gymnastics about how they were the bad guys in all the hollyjew movies because they balled you up lol

Why didnt germany surrendered earlier instead of spending lives of its people, up to sending 14 yo boys against enemy in berlin? And then sorroundering anyway?

Answer is - because ideology of death cult. Becsuse they put vlind faith into fuhrer that turned out to be mentally ill meth addict.

Hitler was in a desperate political situation and his hand was forced. The ethnic Germans that were living in Polish borders were being slaughtered and bullied by Poles out of jealousy for Germany's success, Hitler had to do something as German citizens were losing relatives. I wouldn't be surprised though if these slaughters were carried out by agents of the international Jew in order to start a domino effect, as war was the only answer to this issue and Britain would be dragged into it.

>this myth again
Its so tiresome. Why do we have to talk about this again and again as if it had actually hapenned? Just wasting time.

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Well, if i was german nationalist, i would hate hitler more than jews do right now. His actions at end of war led to giantic culling of german popation of bravest man. He caused rape of berlin. Its like he decided to fuck germany out of spite, as punishment for losing or something.

nazi's don't exist anymore, fucking idiot

nazis are the scapegoat of today like the red scare was the scapegoat of yesterdays. ironic considering nazis don't currently exist in any real form.

On one breath natzis call slavs subgumans that need to b3 genocided, on other they invent such justifications for invasion to make them look like gud bois after all.
Just make up your damn mind.

>nazism
Doesn't exist, never existed.
If you want to debate National Socialism, great.
But
>nazism
Just kill yourself, tranny faggot.
SAGE

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I have brought up the same argument here numerous times and people always refuse to argue in good faith. They start saying that he knew Germans would have been subjected to genocide anyway, which is objectively not true.

Oh and about germans losing family members.. seems like that care about german family integrity did not stopped him from sorrounderi g earlier and stoppung of injection mongol dna into german population.

The only thing worse than a Nazi is a commie.

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>isolationist nationalist ideology
>iT cAnNoT sUrViVe WiThOuT oThEr cOuNtRiEs
You are the dumbest black gorilla nigger I have ever seen.
Kill yourself kike

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i am a proud nazi and i am done hiding my power level. you think there aren't others like me? you think we aren't planning things? get real and expect the unexpected. you will not win kike, you will get the rope.

good post. dont have much to add, but people really need to understand why they hate something instead of just hating something because theyve been brainwashed into hating it

No, you're not, you ignorant dumb ass. There has never been nor will there ever be a thing called "nazi's."

Do you have base on the moon? Or at center of earth?

>WHY are nazis bad?
Because our society is ruled by jews, the basis for all morality is whether or not an action harms jews. That's it.

It has nothing to do with authoritarianism, genocide, or planned economies.

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>WHY are nazis bad?
They didn't kill the jews.
>is EVERYTHING about them bad?
Alot of bad things. Hitler was a vegan and a junky.
>meaning that individually each one wouldn't be bad on its own without the others?
This is a stupid question.