Many people here seem to have accepted that the western world will fall. What are the points and signs of the opposite...

The truckers honking against the clown world is a step in the right direction. A baby step though against a tsunami.
If they could make Trudeau and the entire government step down or reverse all mandates that would be another step in the right direction but overall the west is fucking falling right now.
What is it that the west stands for, exactly?
If you asked that question here or anywhere a thousand times you'd get a thousand different answers. If you explain things like freedom, we'd laugh and show you videos of fathers and their daughters getting arrested by ZOGbots over a minor coof. If you explain things like opportunity, there are a million different ways to explain how little of that there is in America. It doesn't really matter what you think America stands for because we're so 'diversified' now that it doesn't mean anything at all.
And that's a great statement on the west in general. We're too dumb for our own good.

It's not just the west. If you think china and Russia aren't on the edge of their seat with all the cosmic activity going on you're naive as shit.

Everyone is afraid of their own pending doom?

>muh fall, muh collapserino
Is what people have been saying about the west for the last 200 years. 2 more weeks.

None.. Too many fucking brown people are here

>Many people here seem to have accepted that the western world will fall.
100% of them are Russian trolls. Nobody believes them.

In short, yes, but it's not particularly likely, and not permanent.

When Spengler writes about civilizations deep into their winter stage, he includes examples of civilizations that defied the trend for a while, refound what made them great in the first place, and reasserted it for a final golden age or two before they collapse. This seems very possible in the position we're at, but we could also be in the state Rome was in when it transformed from republic to empire. In which case, we will likely reassert what made us great in the first place, and drop the more superficial foundational principles that were only productive for our society at certain stages, even though we consider them foundational (like democracy, traditional capitalism, etc.) and create an even greater stage of our civilization that is more Western than ever, and ironically anti-Western in ways we've come to define it (like in terms of democracy, liberalism, capitalist, etc.) like in the way that the Roman Empire was the antithesis to the republican and anti-monarchical principles that Rome used to define itself during the Republic, and yet UBER Roman in comparison to what it had even been during its Republic.

In other words, we might become some kind of super Western, freedom-loving, Nazi, feudal, free-market, anti-democratic, anti-Capitalist, anti-Liberal ethno-centric society with nominally Progressive values that would make no sense to us now, but makes perfect sense to those that live in a version of our society that has taken the good from past ideologies and purged the bad. And it will probably feel like they live in the most "Western" culture in history. But even this is a last expression of this civilizational cycle, and will end at some point in order to give birth to what is next.

Good post.

>freedom-loving
>Anti-democratic

>free-market
>anti-capitalist

traditional concepts i don't understand go brrrrrr

>from republic to empire
globohomo great reset

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Yes, the future of ideology will be ironic and largely unintelligible to the way we think now. Imagine explaining Calvanism to the average Christian in 1000AD.

Yes, that is one of the plausible forms it might take.