Atheism is essentially the belief that in the beginning there was nothing, and nothing was something...

Atheism is essentially the belief that in the beginning there was nothing, and nothing was something, and nothing created something.

An alternative cope could also be that atheism is the belief that there never was a beginning (contradicting the Big Bang theory), thus the Universe is eternal, was caused and is sustained by itself, contradicting the laws of physics and logic.

Another possible definition of atheism is the belief that some Jews made up a fake story that would get them excommunicated, persecuted, killed and then went and died for it. Or that the Roman Empire created a religion that went against their way of life, persecuted it for three centuries and then made it the official religion of the empire.

You don't know the history of Christianity, you are philosophically illiterate, you believe that the Universe created itself from nothing, that spontaneous generation magically occured for no reason at all and that we evolved and became moral through a mindless biological process. And notice, I don't deny the Big Bang or Evolution, which are both scientific theories that were put forward by Catholics, Lemaître and Lamarck, I deny the retarded, illogical and fallacious notion that it all happened without a creator.

>MUH WHO CREATED GOD!!?!?!
Professional atheists don't use this objection against theism because it is arguably the most idiotic one.

God is outside time, he is immaterial, he is not extended in space. He is not bound by the laws of nature because he created them in the first place. An eternal creator is not bound by time, an immaterial creator can't be created.

When we say that everything that exists has a cause, we are talking in physical terms. God is not physical, the Universe is.

Anyways, why would I waste my time explaining anything to an atheist when they are ignoramuses who will believe whatever allows them to watch porn and smoke weed without being held accountable?

Stay mad, stay coping. Christ is King.

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noothin from nothin aint nuthin
ya gotta have somethin
thats what the songs about

You are a faggot retard. The only correct choice is believing in God and not in faggot religions made by greedy men seeking to control your heart and mind.

And daily reminder Christianity is a psychedelic religion based around ergot, acacia, fly amanita, and psilocybin. The modern Christianity is a hollowed out abomination.

If God (whatever you want to call the creative impetus for reality) precedes creation then the primeval state of divinity is necessarily formless infinite potentiality (no-thing) - as manifestation produces a totality which thereby implies limitation (which would be antithetical to divinity).

This is why the Gnostics delineate between a highest God (Monad), existing in a state of pure unmanifest abstraction, and the Demiurge - which created the material realm (our reality).

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No, athiestic science says there was always something, it just changes form, same as spirituality. Also that the big bang is not the beginning of time, just the beginning of what can likely be known scientifically, wiping out prior information.
T.someone who used to be an athiest scientist but has had way too many spiritual experiences to believe the mainstream version anymore, but still doesn't need to use lame strawman positions like this to criticise it.

Whether you choose athiesm or spirituality, you still either have "there has always been something and it changed forms" or "something came from nothing".

All I have on Christianity, the teachings, morals, philosophy, law, history, origin etc.

History
Christianity being in opposition to jewry:
Pagan gods being the angels
Historical Evidence for Jesus
How Christianity transformed the wold
Correcting claims on common misrepresented parts of the history:
Sodom and Gomorrah
Definitions:
"Dinosaurs", Behemoths and Nephilim
Teachings, Doctrines and Guidelines
Law:
Philsophy:
Pauls work
OT and NT belonging together:
The destruction of the Temple
Logical argument for the christian God
Different teachings within Genesis:
Satanism:
Sun as symbol for God
Purpose behind good and evil
Metaphysics:
Afterlife and Judgementday:
Why Jesus is needed:
Role of the chosen people
Ethnicities
Trivia

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>Christian posing as hyper-intellect
>thinks atheism requires belief in the bing bang theory
Never change, crustkeks

If Hitler actually said that he's completely delusional lol

You can't worship a deified Rabbi and be antisemitic simultaneously.

John 19:19
>And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.

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atheism isnt a belief system at all. npcs were conditioned to think that smart people dont have a religion so they say they are atheist to show other people how smart they are. most of their programming preys on their fragile ego. there is no point in even arguing about it because atheists npcs rarely develop into a human, their opinions dont matter

>Atheism is essentially the belief that in the beginning there was nothing
Nope. Why do you continue to lie. Why are you a hypocrite?

>Atheism is essentially the belief

Failed already. Atheism is merely the lack of a belief in a deity (for whatever reason). It doesn't go beyond that.
Even serious theologians aren't so bonehead as to suggest the position you're proposing. But I do see this thread popping up often here, it's clearly spam so
SAGE

Hey faggot Turk Roach, why did Hitler appoint a neo pagan as the official nazi ideologist?

things can logically follow from your belief that there is no god though, like the absence of an ontic referent for the truth value of moral claims

"Germany had some of the most advanced anthropologists, genetic scientists, historians, and supporting staff to help find the answers to why we exist and how it all came to be. My father was religious, and raised us to be also. A Being is responsible for life, that is very easy to see because of what it is, nature and the beauty of the earth. Nature is clear about that, the problem, or question is who he is. Every race was given a way to worship their creator, the European people found a God who worked well for us for 2 thousand years. My father's concern was that in just the last 200 years Jews have wormed their way into our religion, even to the point of working on translating parts of the Bible to suit their needs.

They were then able to convince leaders that the Bible really is about the Jew and not about Europeans; we are only secondary along with all other “gentiles”. This made no sense to my father, as Jews have not had any of the marks of a creative, industrious people. I have met people from your country who agree that the Jews cannot be the people of the Bible, or that the Bible is only for the Jew, who denounce and hate Christ. We Europeans took his name; hence, every European nation is a Christian nation. My father did not hate the Church or persecute the Church. What he disagreed with was the Judeo influence on the Church; Germany had some sects who worshiped the Jew as the only people close to God. "
---Gudrun Himmler - Munich 1992

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Yes

Most atheist just want to be hedonistic without punishment they're npcs they don't even think about how things cane to be they just allow someone else think for them literally

>you need an iron-age collection of semite myth and history to live a modest life
??

>things can logically follow from your belief

Failed again. There is no belief, it's a lack of one. What about that is difficult for you guys to understand?

>Christranny acting the part
Amazing, tell us.more about your feelings

do you believe there are no gods?

God doesn't precedes nothing

He is

>an ontic referent for the truth value of moral claims
Wow amazing word salad there. Can you demonstrate your statement Bret?

you have the world's most powerful dictionary in front of you

I don't know, define god. I don't believe in the Abrahamic God because I haven't been convinced.

I don't think there is a good answer to this argument but one could argue that when there was nothing, there were no physical laws stopping nothing from becoming something.

If God engenders reality than it necessarily precedes manifestation.

You can't make everything if there was something first.

Bump.

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No, I lack belief in any gods. If there are gods, there is no evidence, to my mind at least, that points to their existence.
In the same fashion, I lack belief in fairies. If there are fairies, there is no evidence, to my mind at least, that points to their existence.
In the same fashion, I lack belief in Japanese Oni. If there are Oni, there is no evidence etc etc, you get the picture.
I'm willing to wager that your stance on Oni is exactly the same as mine. So, if you bear that in mind, just replace the word Oni with God and you will see where an atheist stands.
I don't go about my life as if there is an Oni watching me 24/7, and neither do you. I don't go about my life as if God is either, but for some reason you differ.

No not a modest life(without god it will be more difficult) but if you want perfection yes you need God

I'm notnasking a dictionary,.I'm asking you for your subjective interpretation

I don't have the kind of faith it would take to be an atheist. They think that men came from rocks after billions of years of chance particle interactions by mistake.

>Atheism is essentially the belief that in the beginning there was nothing, and nothing was something, and nothing created something.
No, you're thinking of big-bang theory, which is just creationism pretending to be science.

Thays your opinion. Which God? How do you know ow it's only one or that it's your favorite one?

Fuck off with your jewish desert trash

>They think that men came from rocks after billions of years of chance particle interactions by mistake.
This has nothing to do with atheism

And why does it need to be the god of the semites?

Bong post.... Reminded of Jeremy kyle guests.... Opinion automatically discarded

> you get the picture.
i really don't.
i understand why you want to play this word game, so that you don't have to justify your belief that there are no gods, because atheism is so absurd and untenable, but it's just asinine to play this game.

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>semites
Who are the "Semites"? Seems like a "trashcan" term.

Baito desu.

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how can you believe in no god and deny macroevolution and old earth + big bang/space narrative?

It has everything to do with atheism.

Big bang theory retard explanation: it is like those shrimp that snap so hard they create air pockets that explode. expands until it contracts like an elastic band and forces of attraction overcome the expanding forces. Eventually it all comes back to one point, only for another big bang to take its place.

>so that you don't have to justify your belief that there are no gods,
He literally did you disingenuous fuck stuck
> I lack belief in any gods. If there are gods, there is no evidence, to my mind at least, that points to their existence.
Are you disingenuous on purpose?
>because atheism is so absurd and untenable, but it's just asinine to play this game.
You're the one playing games midwit

> Atheism is ridiculous!
> Now worship this rabbi nailed to a stick as God!
Kek

Hey its this guy again. You posted a thread and used 2nd Thessalonians 2:13 to claim Mary was sinless. Well nice job taking that verse out of context because that entire context is about being saved by God. 13 But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits[d] to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. 14 To this he called you through our gospel, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter. 16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God our Father, who loved us and gave us eternal comfort and good hope through grace, 17 comfort your hearts and establish them in every good work and word."
Nothing about Mary's sinlessness.

Discussing your faith with non-believers will weaken it.

Write that down.

You're saying that evidence is an unrealistic standard to set when talking about something such as a supreme being, responsible for all of creation?
I mean, it's not as if he didn't play an active role in the OT. How come he doesn't do anything now that we're in a world full of ways to verify his appearances and share them across the planet in the same day?

>how can you believe in no god
I didn't say that. Come back when you can fucking read
>deny macroevolution and old earth + big bang/space narrative?
Has nothing to do with atheism No dipshit, it doesn't. A person cam beleive in these things irrespective of them being an atheist. Atheism is a response to a claim. Thats it

You misspelled "anti-Semitic" the jew way. No shekels for you.

Filth of all kinds.

It really isn't so hard to understand. There are many youtube videos explaining. Amino acids + organic compounds from volcanic vents = DNA = life. Or life came on a meteor and cellular life evolved from that point. Either is plausible.

He is unfortunately a Catholic that has a huge Mary idolatry problem. He refuses to believe her when she said that she needed a savior too. This means that she was not sinless, as he claims. If she was sinless then she would not have needed a savior.

Very holy woman of course, but he really needs to stop making idol of her and elevating her to being equal to Jesus. Or even more important than Jesus. He talks about Mary much more than he talks about Jesus.