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What is the maximum Estrofem dose I can take before it becomes unhealthy? I don't have my balls so I don't take T-suppressors. I wanna coom for once in my life.
Any clinics that do the Powers Method in Massachusetts?
Isaac Fisher
What's the relation between cooming and maximal dose? I think 3-4x 2mg non-orally a day is max for people without balls, too high a dose is prob harmful because it might mess up your receptors
Alexander Lee
is correct, the most you want to be taking is about 8 mg in 1-2 mg doses. Any more than that and it can burn out your receptors and your body can't process it anyways.
Luis Jackson
>Estrofem 1 mg and 2 mg film-coated tablets of estradiol hemihydrate >dosage start with 1-2 mg per day, gradually increasing up to a maximum of 8 mg per day tablets can be taken sublingually rather than orally to achieve higher overall estradiol levels all forms of estrogen increase risk of blood clots (venous thromboembolism AKA VTE) higher levels of estradiol means higher blood clot risk monotherapy levels are more easily and reliably attained via injections than via patches, gel, or sublingual tablets
Eli Ross
is spiro really as bad as every says it is? i dont mind having to pee all the time
Isaiah Nguyen
>it might mess up your receptors citation needed >it can burn out your receptors and your body can't process it anyways. are you sure about that? levels are levels. are you saying transfems on injection monotherapy are burning out their receptors? i'd like to see some evidence/reasoning although that may explain anecdotal reports of less breast growth with injection monotherapy. at the same time, i've heard just as many anecdotal reports of better breast growth upon switching to injections so what is it that high levels do? better feminization, or worse? i thought the main problem with high levels was risk of blood clot and also increased risk of breast cancer, etc.
Brody Nelson
it's not about having to pee all the time, it's about the impact it's having on your body to cause you to pee all the time in the first place yes, it's as bad as everyone says it is. it is a borderline useless anti-androgen and should be treated firmly as "better than nothing" but you should absolutely not plan on taking it your entire life
Gavin Gutierrez
on spiro rn. no it isn't all that bad. it can cause brain-fog due to lowering blood pressure, but if you already have high blood pressure, it could be good for you. a flip-side of peeing constantly is dehydration, which has even worse cognitive effects. drink lots of water and get some salt in your diet avoid high levels of potassium, which accumulates in the blood of spiro users and rarely reaches dangerous levels
Charles Rogers
>are you saying transfems on injection monotherapy are burning out their receptors? those anons are making a mountain out of a molehill but literally yes, this does happen to some minor extent. it's even more well-documented, however, that this is not even close to total annihilation of the receptors and that the majority of the estrogen is still in your system long enough that any frazzled receptors will regenerate in time for the difference to be negligible or even closer in line with cis estrogen cycles
Grayson Sanchez
i agree that it's better than nothing. even spiro on its own can cause breast growth in males by both lowering and blocking T. can you be more specific about the impacts on the body causing one to pee all the time?
Joshua Price
how effective is T gel/cream at reversing dick atrophy?
Parker Baker
Im only just under 7 months hrt. I definitely think i have reached tanner. Now my regime seems relatively high for my time on hrt, but i am a youngshit with 18 year old start.
I take roughly 6mg EV / 5 days. SubQ injected in alternating sides of stomach fat.
I also started cycling lilians 200mg prog gel 8 days ago and i plan to do 12 days on 16 days off for cycle.
I also take 2mg oral every friday and sat night if i dont also have an injection this day. This set up seems strange for a 5 day injection cycle ik, but it’s because after this ev vial im switching to a 14 day Een cycle that ill do on sundays.
As for blood levels my hrt clinic will cover a decent range for free, but the appointments are very sparse so other self req blood tests would be out of pocket.
From this I don’t really have recent results, but in late june my e2 was 1600pmol/L
Basically i just want to know if im taking this too fast and could be messing up development with prog and high w2
Kevin Diaz
lowers BP, diuretic (easily leads to dehydration if you don't strictly monitor fluid in/out), statistically significant possibility of kidney issues there are other side effects but they are far more manageable than the above mentioned it's far more effective than purely physical regimens but it very much so depends on the severity of the atrophy at the time you begin 100% get cream if you have access to a compounding pharmacy/doc who will write you a compound scrip results are results so if you're happy with how your body is changing that's obviously positive, "taking this too fast" can as you seem to know only really be dictated by your own feelings and your blood levels, which of course you're gonna want to get done ASAP given you're actively switching medications
William Evans
Dw user i have my next appointment 27th of September. Then hopefully ill be able to get way more bloods done. I know some things like shbg and estrone arent even available to test here, but at least I should be able to test things like dht, which on self order is $500 to test lol.
Also shit im realising I forgot to say Im also on lucrin 12.5mg but I am very neary due for another dose. This is why I showed no concern at all about gonadal T. That has definitely been nuked.
Now im only worried as prog could cause dht conversion and other adrenal 5ar conversion. Although externally I cant imagine this being too true as ive seen no increased hair growth or anything that could indicate increasing dht in the last 8 days
Benjamin Hughes
>i have reached tanner. stage what? >youngshit with 18 year old start not a younshit
Lincoln Thomas
IK weouldn't do souch high levels so eatly, more E2 isn't equal to more årogress and might even make things worse Also I wouldn't take prog so earlyt I dont' see not possible upsides and srveral possible downsides
fuckyou 18 isyoung
Easton Hernandez
Tanner 3** sorry. Lol Any Forums tells me im a youngshit although i do partially agree since i did go through male puberty. Oo nice trip. I love durian. I do definitely agree potential risk is definitely increased while there arent long term benefits.
Ik more hormones doesnt mean faster transition but I do want as fast of a transition as possible. This ik to be frowned at a lot, especially by doctors, but I think the mental health tax of transitioning slowly is too much for me.
This is why when I think ive reached tanner 3 I switched to the tanner3-5 method because how it saw it was if my body is already there I shouldnt just wait around on lower dose e and no prog.
On a relate note does anyone have a good measurable way for me to tell exactly what tanner stage im at. I find just looking at google image diagrams to compare isnt the most effective
Joshua Robinson
what needle length and gauge do you guys recommend? and whats the best spot for doing im injections? im really skinny so i dont know how feasible it would be for me to do subq instead of im
