Whats your opinion on loli/shota...stuff, and the people who like it?

it's based but only if you're kind to others/socially with it and don't make too much noise, ie by posting bait threads multiple times in the last week on Any Forums

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It's pedoshit and if you like it you're a pedo.
I don't care about any nonsense cope you can come up with to feel better about yourself but you're jerking it to images of children.

I'm gonna assume you meant to reply to me since i mentioned the groups. stop moralfagging, im not about to sit here and defend pedophilia the operative word in my post was majority, yes pedos will jerk off to anime kids but so will people who aren't pedos BECAUSE ITS ANIME ITS NOT REAL. do i even need to mention shotacon? i mean fuck man go on nhentai and click the crossdressing tag a majority of the doujins are shotacon but who cares its hot and i cannot stress this enough not real.

uncle raped me when i was 8 now im a tranny

Thank you, madam.

At least it's not pornographic. There was that comedy yuri anime with a lolicon nanny with a loli, it was funny.

you can not cleanly separate out drawings of sexual children from irl sexual children from the sexual exploitation of children so that your enjoyment of the first is morally uncomplicated, -that's- moralfagging.
you're masturbating to porn, that will always make you a john at least by analogy, that means you're morally compromised - it's fine
like this is the commonsense opinion on the question and it's more respectable than the mental gymnastics you're doing.
get a grip

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im not doing any mental gymnastics i genuinely don't see the problem, nobody is getting exploited by drawings. its like saying that getting off to noncon hentai makes you a rapist. maybe that counts as mental gymnastics but i prefer to see it as a comparison.

i'm not saying that real kids are being exploited by lolisho. at least not ipso facto.
i'm saying that you, as the enduser of an image of an adolescent or a child, are fundamentally in the dark about what's behind it that the artist would draw it to begin with.
moreover, you can draw an ad hoc line between your desire and that of a nambla guy, but only an ad hoc line.
an ordinary person is always going to view you as dangerously adjacent

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like do you realise how ordinary and prevalent revenge porn and adjacent/analogous kinds of pornography are on online porn sites?
you as an enduser won't be able to detect it or prove it as such. you're not even thinking of these ethical/second-order questions when you're aroused. but what happens to the depicted person, psychically and emotionally, if they come to know about it?
what do you know, or what can you even know, about the real world object-choice preference for or contacts with minors of lolisho artists?

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yeah i guess that makes sense fuck all it took was some fancy words
>what can you even know, about the real world object-choice preference for or contacts with minors of lolisho artists?
i never really thought about it that way, i can understand the implications. it still feels wrong to me to instantly label someone as a pedo for consuming such media but i get that that's how the average person sees it.

Most straight men are looking for teen porn, most of the population is mentally fucked, one of the least important things is liking loli or shota. And it's not like the artists are having sex with children, that would be gross, wasn't it samurai x that had the author consuming child porn? Don't we have more important things to worry about than drawings?

I don't know, I suppose

As long as they have no interest in real children and stick to fictional renderings.

if you mean loli/shota characters, they're fine. if you mean lol/shota porn, it's kinda messed up and you should keep that on the dl, but in the end they are just drawings and they only barely resemble 3d anyways.

basically the p word is a placeholder term for at least three distinguishable phenomenon if not more because "what are children" "what is childcare/pedagogy" "should we have an age of majority" "what should the age of majority be" are bigger and intractable problems
i'm not saying liking loli or shota is of outsized importance, i'm saying quite the opposite.
people who like it in particular sometimes try to invert consensus thinking by saying they have moral high ground over both real deal p words and people who won't touch the stuff (via being fantastical/imaginary) and i just don't think it stands up
>tl;dr: there is bottomless evil in the hearts of men. no one knows what to do about Teens

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shouldn't be illegal but i will look down upon you if you enjoy it
it's a child
also marie rose is a loli idc if she's 18 she was designed to look like a child to troll sweden's cp laws and you're weird for jerking off to her
and canonically underage characters that look like normal adults aren't lolis and it's fine to jerk off to them, they're not real, human rights don't apply to them

I don't care/mind really tbqhw/upham.

youtu.be/rJoXxGBT1Z4

if you like it sexually, not just the aesthetic or whatever, then you're obviously a pedo or at least close enough to be judged as such. now maybe you think that's okay as long as it's not harming any real person, and you have the right to think that but i am so tired of the semantic bullshit i see on here about why it's ackshually not pedo shit because they're "just drawings"--that has implications for the consequences of your actions yes, but not for whether or not it makes you a pedo. just own up to it goddamn

also it does not surprise me that the ruroni kenshin guy had dvd's of real teens precisely because mangaka are just like that

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