Hateful Trannies

Why do some trannies hate/dislike cis gnc and non-binary people?

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Because they realize they fucked up and misery loves company

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Trannies (MtF) hate everyone except for other MtF trannies and sometimes other AMABs

some FTM are cute tho

Only because they are cute girls and the cuteness still shines through the mutilations they inflicted on themselves.

some of them are cuter after HRT

Testosterone, cute does not make

because this whole NB shit just doesn't fly with most people's concepts of gender.

There is a reason why most people still believe in the gender binary, and that's simply because most people still operate on the idea that gender is tied to sex. It's the reason why trans women get boob jobs and facial feminization surgery and cut their cocks off, because they want the sexual characteristics of the other sex, which in turn would give them the gender they want. Hell, even my sister, who is a huge trans ally and works with trans communities, she decided her child was a boy simply because the ultrasound showed a penis while he was in the womb. The idea that sex and gender is completely unrelated is simply not true in our society (or really any society I can think of). I don't know why people have tricked themselves into thinking it is, because it simply is not. I get people wanted to try to push that as a way to stand with trans people, but for most people that's just not how we operate.

Now the problem with non-binaryism is that you are demanding we don't see you for what is readily obvious to us. Humans are sexually dimoprhic, there is no secret third option where humans don't have a sex and they are just smooth, genderless barbie dolls with no sexual traits. That simply doesn't exist. Intersex people may be the exception to this, but cases where people are so intersex that they don't have a visually obvious sexual phenotype is like 0.05% of all humans. It's like saying dogs can't be considered 4 legged when some dogs are born with 3 legs.

So yeah we mainly just hate this shit because A.) Gender and sex have always been linked and as long as sexual dimorphism exists, gender binaryism will exist and you within it and B.) Most people are annoyed that there are more NB people in trans spaces than actual trans women/men, much like how women are annoyed when trans women take over cis women spaces

because lots of the time (though not always) it feels like it's just an appropriation of queer terminology and aesthetics for attention

Isn't non binary just a fancy word for GNC?

because they're fucked and for some reason people think I'm fucked in the same way even though I'm just a normal straight girl who happens to be transgender

Well both of you are mentally ill and delusional

Non binary trannies are truetrans if they take hormones

>struggle with dysphoria all my life
>came out in a time it was dangerous for me
>more attention these days is given to "non-dysphoric" "non-binary" trans people who only "realized" after it was socially convenient

i don't want those people to stop doing what they want but i really want them to stop saying they're the same as me.
it's not helping.

Non binary can also have dysphoria.
Also just because the exact term "non binary" is new doesn’t mean the phenomenon is new.
Gender identities and expressions have existed outside the binary for the entirety of history

Masculinity and femininity is a spectrum.

Jealousy

yea really i just kinda look at them as something different, not really trans
if someone wants me to use they/them pronouns or whatever though i'll do my best

Does this apply to mtfs or just pooners?

No, NBs consider it an entirely seperate gender to man or woman. GNC people are just men who do feminine things and woman who do masculine things. GNC is not a gender, but NBs are saying being NB is.
Yeah, people are trans if they seek to transition, but to say you aren't a man or a woman, but some secret third option just simply does not fly for most people (me included) who simply view gender as simply man or woman, no secret gay genderfluid spacemonster voidsexual inconceivable blank hole gender.

I have literally never met a NB person that I couldn't confidently consider man or woman. These people need to realize I'm not interacting with whatever identity you've made up in your head, I'm interacting with the person in front of me. If that person is a they/them woman with tits and long hair and make up and female fat storage patterns, that's a woman to me.

im non binary with dysphoria but im not experiencing the same things to the same extent as most trans people

i think its stupid for trans and non binary people to fight when there's a lot of overlap but i can also see why mtfs might feel annoyed if a space is primarily alt white women who go by they

I hate it because the idea of being "non-binary" implies gender is simply a set of stereotypes.

Trans women and trans women want to become the opposite sex. They want to transition from male to female or female to male. Some of them do want to participate in the femininity or masculinity, but that is not an inherent part of what being a man or a woman is.

Whenever you as an NB male why they aren't a man, they say they've just never liked sports or whatever stereotype they have in their mind for what men are. but the reality is, most men don't follow these ridiculous notions of what NB people think men are. What used to be just men enjoying a wide variety of things has no become a demand for people to view these people having the same struggle as actual trans people.

So no, NB people aren't really trans. They are just men who don't like manly things and women who don't like girly things. Which is really how most cis people operate, most cis men I know don't play sports and most cis women I know don't wear dresses or like to cook. There really is no difference between a non-transitioning NB person and a cis person, so to claim NB people have a place in the trans movement is like saying straight people have a place in the gay movement. They do, but as outsiders

Lots of them refuse to recognize that they're cis or different from us, speak over and erase us and try to cancel us when we don't agree with them. It causes all kinds of issues because they constantly misrepresent trans people and then go about their lives as cis people with a pronoun pin while we're the ones left with the consequences of catching hate crimes and having our human rights targeted because of shit they did.

I'm cool w/ them cuz i think gnc shit is hot but lots of my friends hate their guts.

in my experience the non binary people i know are on hrt, not just basing it off of hobbies