Statistically speaking, if you transed before 25, then you're a youngshit and you're going to make it...

statistically speaking, if you transed before 25, then you're a youngshit and you're going to make it. ffs and a boob job might be the only things you really need to pass, but you probably won't look like man.

if you doubt this, then go to a walmart for like 5 minutes and you'll see what I mean. the bar isn't as high as you think.

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user i don't just wanna pass, i wanna be pretty

i hate when people tell me to go outside
nothing gets me more fucking doomer than going outside and seeing women around my age. bdd passoids just go "hurr ur bdd go outside!!!!!" being too braindead and too lacking of empathy to realize that not everyone is as blessed as they are.
I do touch grass, I work 4 days a week in an office and go out daily for grocery shopping. You know what I see? Cis women who height mog me, hip mog me, shoulder mog me, midface mog me, chin mog me, limb length mog me, foot mog me, and basically any kind of mogging you can think of. One of my coworkers my age completely unironically has a body built almost exactly like the pooner memes.
fuck you op i hope you fucking get hit and killed by a bus

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I know how that feels. I wanna be pretty too. I hope we can both become pretty
hey, I'm not a bdd passoid. there are women that are taller than me at work and I've seen women at the grocery store that are kind of built similar to me. I know it would be great to be a petite 5' woman, but we can't all have that. you need to learn to be happy with how you look and realize that not everyone is so focused on how others look

>I'm not a bdd passoid.
>there are women that are taller than me at work and I've seen women at the grocery store that are kind of built similar to me.
These are conflicting statements. Are you being intentionally dense or do you just lack empathy? Posts like these are almost always the latter.

lol even if you base your statistics with ONLY PEOPLE from this board you would know that most trans women do not pass and age is almost completely irrelevant unless you start very early puberty or before
it's just genetics, and money which 99% of people do not have
cope post, the bar is high and even the 'passing' trans women on this board have miserable lives

eh bruh you don't look like a man tho. around men you were treated like a faggy boy im sure(bcuz u have weak male features). when you look like an actual man, with strong male features(not basedmale features), there is no hope... unless you're okay being a social outcast freakshow tranny.

also ugly women =/= not passing
ugly women still look like women because they have female proportions
if you have a born male at 5'7 and a born female at 5'7 they will look drastically different
'masculine' sounding women still sound like women
masculine sounding men sound like hons

>Are you being intentionally dense or do you just lack empathy?
no to either of those. I'm taller and have a bigger frame than like 90% of the women I see but I get gendered correctly regardless. women come in all sorts of weird shapes so the barrier isn't as high as you'd think

transitioned at 15, FFS and boob job and people still clock me. there's a recent study that shows that HRT doesn't really effect skeletal changes unless it's taken (or at least blockers, maybe specifically lupron?) before the age of about 13 and a half. otherwise you get male bones and then your "mannerisms" which are really just the way your body moves in 3D space when you enact your "natural" feminine faggy mannerisms, will always look "off" to cisoids. I've set up a video camera in my room just to confirm this. I probably only truly "pass" 80% of the time, 19% of the time is when people clock me and are nice so I don't find out, 1% of the time is when people clock me and are mean about it.

tru-passing is literally only for people who took lupron as teenagers instead of shitty spiro.

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utterly irrelevant if you are basing your opinions on random strangers who have no reason to cause confrontation, if you have long hair/not an awful voice most people will gender you neutrally or female
try being near non npc's and see how you look, post a pic, stream, do anything lol
genetics > everything

>another thread by a bdd passoid who thinks everyone is just like them and as blessed as them
passing melts the brain and removes any capability to have empathy for others and realizing that maybe not everyone is like them

What if I transed at 24 and a half

idk i almost finished puberty and im taller than all women where i live. my shoulders are broader than any women where i live. im twice the size of female coworkers. i transitioned at 17 but clearly didnt make it, i still get misgendered sometimes

My body is very upper body heavy, there’s not a whole lot I can do about that. I’m doing targeted workouts and stuff, but even with surgery I don’t know how good my odds are.

user speaks the truth. When I go on my monthly adventure to Wal-Mart for cat food I like to people watch. It really helps with the brain worms to see other women who are also 5'10 or actually taller them me. There aren't dozens of them, but enough to notice

You're already really pretty

yeah, I'm 6'2 and have met women my height before
but it's pretty fucking rare

I dated a tranner who was 6'2 and she passed pretty well

you guys clearly dont live here im 5'9 and taller than all women and most men in most buildings i walk into

You're cracked transition in a 25 is the same as transitioning at 30. If you want to transition when you're young enough to look female you need to do it around 15 before you get man face and man shoulders and your hip bones fuse. I know what I'm talking about, look female I started taking estrogen at 16 blockers that 13

Feels good for you to say that. Most uglies want to be around other Uglies

blockers at 13 you are probably a tru-passer yeah. lupron?

The key is to not look like a grown man at the age you transition. If you look like you're low T and had a weak puberty then you'll probably sort of pass.
I feel you

Wow that's just your experience I started taking testosterone blockers at 13 for my mental health. By the time I was 15 I started having problems passing his mail by the time I was 16 I was taking estrogen and passing 100% as female

in america 5'9 is average for men
but zoomers are tall, I'm 6'2 and lots of the guys in my friend group are over 6' tall. It's pretty common.

Yes and it was prescribed to me for controlling psychosis related to testosterone.
I was never really diagnosed as transsexual I was diagnosed with gender dysphoria at 16 and given estrogen
I don't consider myself to be transsexual

well tbf I have no idea if the 19% figure is accurate because ofc if they don't tell me I can't know unless I'm like, really trying to sus out their demeanor compared to when I know I'm tru-passing. but yes once in a blue moon I'll be clocked and harassed, probably less than 1% of the time but let's just say 1%. and almost always by men of color. and ofc other trans people can clock me.

maybe in the rural south it would never happen because they don't know what clocky youngshits look like.

yeah lupron is the secret ingredient to tru-passing. we need to spread the word.

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>statistically speaking, if you transed before 25, then you're a youngshit

statistically speaking, if you transed before 13, then you're a youngshit