Is it wrong to have your main motivation for taking T is for your voice to drop because men's voices make you horny and...

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Don't care. Boy boobs > flat chest

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sorry the only manboobs that are valid are fat pecs. get this discount tranny shit out of here

Bitch that is literally a tomboy

Tomboys don't have dicks. (Picrel is a dude but I can't show PP)

>discount trannies
user I have news for you...

dude boys with boobs or hrt femboys, whatever the fuck you wanna call em are troons. one of the main sex differences in humans is that men don't have tits, (not counting rare cases of gynecomastia). the flat chest mixed with the to the fem body is peak androgyny and makes it kino, otherwise it's no different from a trans chick

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Femboys are essentially trannies, at least the ones that look good. Both take estrogen and tend to have tits. The difference lies in presentation. A tranny that boymodes and doesn't use boymode as an excuse to not pass and makes it more of a fashion choice is essentially a femboy. A tranny would be the same thing but wants to present as female. Both have to look feminine. With males, androgynity is synonymous with femininity.

Small boobs helps with that. Plus, they're really hot.

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a guy who just likes being feminine is not automatically trans. I'm begging you to just let girly boys be boys. femboys also don't generally take estrogen either, that's just a thing on here and not reality. the difference lies is that one of them genuinely believes theyre a woman and gets dysphoria being seen male, while the other is a man who knows he's a man and is comfortable being one. just embraces the fact that he's not traditionally masculine all the time.

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>femboys also don't generally take estrogen either, that's just a thing on here and not reality.
Femboys for the most part don't even exist in reality. Unless every guy in fem clothing is a femboy regardless of how feminine they are, femboys only exist on Twitter when a twink puts on a skirt.

There's more to being a femboy than just throwing on some gay clothes. You actually have to look like a chick otherwise you'd just be a flamer twink like James Charles. Plus, HRT allows you to femboy it up for way longer.

you're thinking of traps dumbass. femboy was a term created around the 90s to describe cis men who acted girly and faggy. it was on the equivalent of calling an effeminate man a sissy. twinks that acted like James charles were essentially who the term was aimed towards anyways. femboys now is used as a more positive term embracing male gender non conformity, though let's be honest it's head more as a fetish/porn term nowadays. still doesn't negate the fact that it isn't about trying to look like a girl as much as possible. femininity isn't strictly appearance based so there are other ways femboys are feminine that isn't restricted to crossdressing. what you are describing are traps, they intentionally are made to pass as girls without any form of hrt involved. traps are femboys but not all femboys are traps

also it's hilarious how you say you "have to look like a chick" when the example gif you linked is just a twink with puffy tits so thanks for proving my point.

anyways back to the op subject. valid reason for wanting to take T. male voice over squeaky female voice any day

>femininity isn't strictly appearance based
It is though. Something is feminine if it looks feminine. Simple

The word trap is an umbrella term that can include femboys and trannies. Plus, nobody uses that word anymore because of how loose it is.

I agree that "femboy" is more for porn than anything else, a twink wearing gay shit is just a flamer or crossdresser. A femboy doesn't need to try to be a femboy. That's what the HRT is for.

Why does it matter so much anyways?

Looks like a chick to me