Female orgasm envy

how do mtfs who have full body, earth shattering multiple female orgasms masturbate?

from what i could gather, it is almost always
>bottoming through anal or post op
>prone position, vibrator, treat the penis like a clit

but are there any mtfs who have been able to get this power through a more malebrained sexuality?
i've been trying to do all the normal techniques to avoid having a masculine sexuality, but it's not working, i just want to jack off my dick like a man. i can't fucking break this habit. my body was built to cum and ejaculate seed and my mind has accepted this useless, worthless male sexuality as its default.

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just get a magic wand

grinding my limp dick against a vibrator lol. Also that + a prostate massager once in a blue moon. Helps to get really really into it beforehand

Get yourself 99% of the way there doing it your normal way, then quickly switch and finish off in a more feminine way. You'll be associating orgasm with this new method each time you do this.

jerking off is unsatisfying and I feel nothing in my dick anyway, never have. I usually get my prostate massager and put the vibrate on low for a good hour. Feels great

>How do I choke my heckin cock like a girl?

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i have one. i'm a cis man so just like all other masturbation all it does is have a mediocre buildup to a dogshit orgasm

i've never found prostate play enjoyable at all

would this eventually remove my desire to be a cishet man at all? would i eventually be able to destroy my male sexuality for good?
i'm not on hrt yet so i don't have the benefit of estrogen

>jerking off is unsatisfying and I feel nothing in my dick anyway, never have.
normal for trannies, i'm not a tranny i'm a cis man with extreme vagina envy who wants the female orgasm but i don't have any of the mental wiring to get it

>i've never found prostate play enjoyable at all
Here’s the secret: the male p-spot is actually anatomically in the same location as the female g spot, you can’t experience “female orgasm” with just your penis
I can wring orgasms out of my ass all day so long as I’m excited, but if I cum with my dick it’s game over.

if grabbing and jerking your dick like a man feels natural to you, you can’t change that or train yourself out of it. it’s an inborn trait at the deepest level of your brain-body connection. if having a penis doesn’t give you terrible genital dysphoria, and if you didn’t rub or hump to get off intuitively from an early age, you probably just have a male sexuality. not everyone gets to experience everything, and that’s okay.

>you can’t experience “female orgasm” with just your penis
but isn't the penis like a clit? if you use both you can achieve it

>not everyone gets to experience everything, and that’s okay.
easy to say when you aren't the one missing out. sometimes i feel like killing myself over this shit. i cannot even watch porn anymore without sometimes having to stop because it's too much
male sexuality is so worthless that it's just barely worthwhile to think about anything else
every single experience i ever could have is invalid compared to a female orgasm
my entire life, everything i have is simply just a worthless, pathetic cope.
every other pleasure in life is simply a cope. the entire world was built by men with trash sexualities to cope with the fact that they will always be lesser life forms

name at least 5 things better than a female orgasm for you.
nothing i do matters, it's all just a pathetic life
it's like watching a cripple enjoy sports. it's like being a vegan at a barbecue. a man enjoying sex is almost a laughable parody of sex

isn't the penis a like a clit? that's what i mean by the second part, you could do a combination of both, like how cis women do it
if i have to accept that my sexuality of topping naturally is garbage, then i guess it's much harder for me
otherwise why don't i just kill myself now? life is just one big cope. great men who never experienced the female orgasm simply just died pathetic

>but isn't the penis like a clit?
Yes, which is precisely why you can’t. Clitoral and penetration orgasms are very different, with clitoral orgasms acting more like penile orgasms and penetration… well… like penetration.
Let’s put it this way: I don’t experience a refractory period with anal, but I do if I cum with my penis. You’ll know when you have a real anal orgasm for the first time it’s like… drugs or something

Oh yea another thing tho:
The stimulation women receive on their clit is different than the stimulation from jerking it.
If you specifically want to experience clitoral orgasm, there’s this thing called the arcwave that stimulates nerves along the underside of the shaft and it feels pretty crazy but you’ve gotta get used to it
So all in all I’ve got like 3 different orgasms I can choose from, it’s pretty pog

>I don’t experience a refractory period with anal, but I do if I cum with my penis.
this is true for cis men as well usually. there are accounts of trans women who don't have a refractory period with their dick.

>You’ll know when you have a real anal orgasm for the first time it’s like… drugs or something
been many years and still trying. no matter how much i try to enjoy being anally penetrated, i never have derived much sexual pleasure from it

>arcwave
seems to be some frenulum stimulator. i'm circumcised, i'm missing a lot of parts and that specific region isn't very sensitive for me

>The stimulation women receive on their clit is different than the stimulation from jerking it.
yeah, that's something i was trying to say on OP

>So all in all I’ve got like 3 different orgasms I can choose from, it’s pretty pog
has HRT improved any of it at all?
i literally just want HRT to coom better lol. i can't even think about sex without feeling like there's no point to it because a man having sex is like a cripple playing a sport. male sexuality is so useless what's even the point

if you want to use the penis like a clit, just put a vibe on your frenulum or whatever. if that doesn’t make you cum it’s bc your sexuality won’t allow it

>name at least 5 things better than a female orgasm for you
in terms of raw physical pleasure? i can’t even name one. but that’s not everything in life, there are many psychological and emotional pleasures i treasure more highly. even in the realm of sex, cumming is not the be all and end all for me, and desu being obsessed with orgasms comes off kinda malebrained.

are you even on hrt? that’s kind of a necessary first step to attaining the kind of sexuality you want.

>just put a vibe on your frenulum
don't have one of those

>in terms of raw physical pleasure? i can’t even name one. but that’s not everything in life,
like i said, this is easy for you to say when you have it.
it's easy to say for anyone who has something that "it's not that important"
money is not that important, poor people can be happy.
health is not that important, diabetics and cripples have plenty going for them
passing is not everything, hons should be happy

>there are many psychological and emotional pleasures i treasure more highly.
name 5.

>cumming is not the be all and end all for me, and desu being obsessed with orgasms comes off kinda malebrained.
i'm using orgasm as a catch all for all of female sexuality. the fact that the female orgasm is much better, yet still not the end all is just another aspect of why male sexuality is useless

>are you even on hrt? that’s kind of a necessary first step to attaining the kind of sexuality you want.
no. i had no plans on getting on HRT until i learned about HRT orgasms. now i think about it day and night but haven't chased it because well, you see my motives.
i'm a 30 year old man who wants to kill himself over having a male sexuality. do you really think someone like me should transition, or should i just cut my losses and reroll?

>there are accounts of trans women who don't have a refractory period with their dick.
I mean I kinda get it? When I cum I can keep going and my dick stays crazy crazy hard, it just takes a while to get back up there when I can just keep going with my p-spot as long as my headspace doesn’t change

>been many years and still trying. no matter how much i try to enjoy being anally penetrated, i never have derived much sexual pleasure from it
I started doing anal in middle school and just had my first real orgasm this year, try out the njoy pure wand if you wanna target your pleasure centers and abuse them until they activate

>i'm circumcised
Yea me too, I have some pretty nasty scarring that extends down an inch and a half when I’m hard but it still werks on my machine

>has HRT improved any of it at all?
Penile orgasms feel like last FOR EVER like half the time and make me roll around in my bed, the other half they feel like barely anything
The frenulum orgasm is a little weird, it kinda feels like a little p-spot orgasm localized entirely within my shaft
But anal really takes the cake tho, the orgasms feel like this pleasure portal opens up and starts dumping out pleasure like the corrupted holy grail in fate as long as I keep up the stimulation. Compared to prehrt, what I get out of anal is mindblowing but I wasn’t really getting all I could before for sure.

>do you really think someone like me should transition
i think you should be working with a therapist who specializes in gender and sexuality issues. strangers on this toxic ass board will not help you sort through the anguish you are clearly feeling.

>should i just cut my losses and reroll?
there is no such thing as rerolling. even if you believe in reincarnation, to be born in the human realm is an exceedingly rare thing, and suicide won’t take you anywhere better. better to make the best of this life as if it’s the only one you have and expiate your karma here.

You trannies are so cringe

seems like a lot of good results of HRT.
for me i'm probably too old for those results

my plan if i start HRT is try it for 2 or so years, if i get good results good, if not then i just off myself

>try out the njoy pure wand
i have one, doesn't feel like much.
any toy you can suggest i have it. my anal spending budget is in the hundreds if not thousands

i didn't mean literally rerolling. i don't believe in that shit
if i can't have a healthy, female sexuality then it's no different if i kill myself tonight than if i lived out the rest of my life

>better to make the best of this life as if it’s the only one you have and expiate your karma here.
this is the only life i have. some people live lesser lives than others. life isn't fair.
i'm lucky enough to at least have the opportunity to take HRT in desparation, and then i can kill myself when it inevitably doesn't work out
nobody's lives mean anything, there is no karma. like the other user said, "some people are meant to live shit lives, and that's ok"

i'm not a tranny, however i am deeply resentful and envious of any woman, trans or cis, due to their vastly superior sexualities.

if a woman were to have sex with me, i would probably lose all arousal and have to walk out of the room and start dissociating the moment she starts cumming.
i can't even watch porn because female pleasure makes me have a mental breakdown lmao

>Penile orgasms feel like last FOR EVER like half the time and make me roll around in my bed, the other half they feel like barely anything
hmm, is there any difference in foreplay or technique?
i've heard from other trans women that much of it comes down to how you do it and the mood
i will say that most of my ejaculations barely feel like anything
cumming is actually my least favorite part of jerking off. the entire dick just goes numb and my emotions go numb and i get tired