How do mtfs feel when cis women rant about how terrible it is to be a woman?

being a woman is hard but being a man makes me suicidally depressed

not saying women aren't bigger targets, like every cis woman i know was terrified of being alone
just saying i still feel scared as shit outside as well as a man

>inb4 you're a man just stop being a pussy
yeah case in point tho

The problem is when you’re a woman every neighborhood could be “the wrong neighborhood”
Leaving work at night to walk to your car
Being on your own “safe” college campus
Being around men alone
Men don’t realize that less attention from strangers is a desirable thing to many women
(Women tend to be equally non-understanding of men’s issues, to be fair. A lot could be gained from men and women genuinely trying to gain mutual understanding of each others’ experiences)

it’s complex, misogyny is obviously real and cis women should talk about the ways it limits their lives. but i think a lot of cis women just don’t get the core concept of gender dysphoria and don’t realize that if they magically transformed into male bodies or something they wouldn’t be free, they’d be suicidal. so sometimes that “womanhood sucks” (or even “womanhood is defined by suffering”) sentiment gets used as a bludgeon against trans women

this is the best take on it. ily user :3

>Men don’t realize that less attention from strangers is a desirable thing to many women
i'm slowly kinda understanding it
>(Women tend to be equally non-understanding of men’s issues, to be fair. A lot could be gained from men and women genuinely trying to gain mutual understanding of each others’ experiences)
i've been grabbed once in public (in hindsight maybe i malefailed since the man profusely apologized once he got a closer look my face) and that really did change my views a bit

i'm trying not to downplay their experience, maybe i just feel attacked because i feel like i have to justify why i don't want to be a man

I think they should transition

We have to remember that we're basically in the greatest period of personal freedom and power for women in history

I'm not trans but obviously being a woman is hard sometimes. Even more so back in the day. You are treated differently and no, being sexualized doesn't make up for it, sorry.

I think trans women actually experience some of the worst of what (social) womanhood has to offer--they get shamed for slightest deviations in their looks, they get people sexualizing them and acting entitled, they are treated as outsiders and lesser by all-too-many cis men and cis women alike. Of course they don't have to deal with pregnancy and childbirth and mensturation but they have all kinds of their own body pains to deal with. So yeah idk.

this is just pooner thoughts and they need T shots asap