>It's ok to get into a cishet marriage have kids and then fall out of love with your spouse and split up. It's ok to get into a cishet marriage have kids and then realize you're gay and split up. It's NOT ok to get into a cishet marriage and then realize you're trans and split up. And if you have kids it's 10,000 times worse and you should be arrested and killed
I see this constantly here, can anyone explain it to me without using circular logic like "trans bad because... IT JUST IS OK"
it's not what people say tho
I'm having trouble thinking because that butt is so amazing.
You're right usually they get mad even if you're just casually dating followed by troon
no, they say it's bad when you get in a relationship knowing you're trans but repressing until she's stuck with you and a kid
not the same thing at all
It's effectively the same thing, hence why I asked you to define it without circular logic as you're doing now. The vast majority of trans people don't "know they're trans" in the sense that you are implying, any more than gay people "know they're gay", gay and trans and straight and cis are cope words we use for convenience and real orientations and identities are more nuanced and can change over time.
>It's effectively the same thing
no it's not
For me like I wanted to be a woman for my whole life and even considered transition but didn't anything of it and just rationalised that like it's totally normal to think that or it's just intrusive thoughts or something and I guess within the last year or so I really started admitting to myself you know what probably I'm trans and probably I also am attracted to men too and they're not just intrusive thoughts so I told my partner and we're still together and stuff but I haven't trooned out or anything. I dunno if I even will. The idea of doing it makes me feel pretty terrified and I'm not even sure if I'd be happier for it because of all of the social costs and stuff and I'm still worried that like I'm just having obsessive thoughts and I'm not actually trans or anything and it would be a huge mistake. I guess like I did have to say something once I admitted it to myself though so my partner knew that I'm maybe a ticking time bomb and staying with me is at a risk. I dunno maybe we'd still stay together but I dunno. Really worried I'll fuck my life up for no reason at all.
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Op here, yes that's pretty much what inspired me to make this thread today though I've bitched about it before
I guess I don't get how you didn't realize you were trans much younger. A child's sense of gender solidifies around 13.
I've never not known I was trans even if I didn't always have words for it.
I don't know how you manage to become a husband and father if you're dysphoric. Those don't happen by accident, you have to seek out those things.
I can't square that circle unless we're willing to admit there's different levels of transgender. A girl tried to suck my dick when I was living as male and it gave me a panic attack. I became intensely aware of how she was seeing me and couldn't handle it.
>How are other people's life experiences not always the same as mine? Idgi
Complete lack of empathy and understanding, extremely autistic and malebrained take
>A girl tried to suck my dick when I was living as male and it gave me a panic attack
This is completely normal though, penises are dirty and gross and anyone with empathy should be able to understand that girls must be protected from dirty and gross things such as my icky masculine body. The best way for a good and decent man to protect the woman he loves is to disguise himself as one and take the cock like a trusted bodyguard takes a bullet for his master.
Ooh, you're throwing insults. Now I don't have to be tepid.
You're right, I have very limited empathy for someone who dehumanizes me.
I also think that if you were able to get on one knee, propose, and impregnate a bitch who loved you for your strong male body, then yeah we have had different life experiences. Mine was a transgender one.
You and I aren't the same.
Guys. I really like how when i go to sip my drink now, i bump into my boob.
That's so nice.
And nah, I love dick.
You're assuming just cause i am calling you out for being a dick that i am the type of person you're insulting. You're wrong lol. Are you like actually autistic?
>The vast majority of trans people don't "know they're trans"
Spoken like a true cis person.
Op here, I'm not taking a position one way or another on whether you're "malebrained" or "autistic" but for the record that isn't me, more than two people can have different opinions here it's not football
No, I think you're a massive piece of shit that misgendered me the first chance you got.
But in the interest of keeping things on topic, your behavior is disgusting and a pretty good indicator you're completely disconnected from the trans experience.
I'm a youngshit passoid and even i can see that you're acting like a self righteous spoiled brat. We grew up in a situation where we felt able to express our wishes wrt gender and have people care and actually do something about it, not everyone had that luxury. The pressure to assimilate is huge, plenty of cis people don't come out as gay until they're older like op was saying that doesn't mean they are faking it
I didn't misgender you lmao you are so fragile. Maybe you should embrace the fact you're malebrained instead of trying to desperately conform to stereotypes?Stop acting like such an entitled bitch if you can't take any shit
Don't care. If the first attempt to defend "realizing your trans" that late involves some shithead invalidating my experience as someone who was dysphoric as a toddler, then that says it all for me.
Still at it.
Admitting that some people don't experience cripping dysphoria until they're middle aged doesn't invalidate your existence unless you're completely mental, get a grip lady
people are dumb. i got married and had a kid thinking i could only live the cis-het life. anything else didn't seem viable so i made the best of my situation within my means. my kid is doing great, my ex and I are on fantastic terms. it doesn't have to be as bad as some make it out to be
Yeah, like, my brain is so scrambled by the time and place I grew up in. Even as a little kid I wanted to be a girl and I got called girly and stuff and the desire never went away and I still wish I was a woman. But, like, even with that and with me wanting to do HRT as soon as I found out it existed and stuff, with the mess in my head I still wouldn't admit to myself I was trans. I've wanted to die because I'm a man or to hurt myself over it and like even still I haven't been able to push myself to transition. I'm so confused and such a coward. I'm glad people growing up now aren't subjugated to the same kind of stuff we were, it would be heartbreaking. The mess in my head is really painful and it makes me happy seeing people who are able to just do what they want without all of the baggage.
For me, like, I knew I wanted to be a girl way before I was 13 and would go to bed wishing it would just happen and I'd like research transitioning and stuff but I never did it and talked myself out of it and pretty much convinced myself that somehow desperately wishing I was a girl and feeling disgust for having a male body didn't mean I was trans. Basically like, in retrospect it's so obvious, but I had so much confusion from some brand of brainworms.
The way you talk about being trans is something that has only really been possible for people very recently. If you have to start hrt amd socially transition young to be truly trans then you're basically saying that being trans is something that was entirely invented by the medical establishment and wider society enabling it within the last 20 years or so, which seems a lot more trendery and fake than someone who was born in the 1950s saying they've always had difficult feelings about gender but didn't fully understand/know what to do about it until they were older