Any other trans males want to be an ultra mega passoid...

any other trans males want to be an ultra mega passoid? so many ftms seem like they just want want a flat chest and to be referred to as male. now of course i dont want tits and i want a dick but i also want to be huge like 6'4. i want to be extremely hairy, i want an incredibly deep voice, i want to be extremely muscular, i want really prominent bone structure, i can pick apart exactly whats wrong with everything about my face, ive been heavily considering facial masculinization surgery but i can hardly find any resources about it and absolutely no surgery results. i found one "fms" photo on transbucket but it was literally just jaw fillers. its benn hard to find anyone to relate to or find any advice for my issues

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Me too, the best we can do is go to the gym. I've also been visualizing myself as the hyper masculine male that I want to be in my head and act is if I already look like him.

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I do and I also feel isolated from ftms that's are content not being super masculine and passing. Nothing against them but I just don't relate to them, I wish I knew more like us irl
Especially in terms of going to the gym. I wish more ftms would go to the gym.

Maybe they're just more realistic about communicating what's achievable for them? Best of luck nonetheless. You can do it, champ. :)

there are definitely trans men who want to be hypermasc but i think trans men are in general open to a wider array of masculinity than cis men like they’ll aspire to high fashion male model aesthetics or something

Certain FTMs are weird and just like masculinity as an aesthetic and wear it as an identity. Which is absolutely fair since you get the best of both worlds, all the social upticks of being visibly female without the suicidal tendencies of being a man

>grrr I'm not like other ponies!!!1!
Go back to r/truscum. Most ftms want to look like regular men but they are content with what they can get.

i dont agree with truscum ideology it doesn't make sense to me. and im not saying im more of a man than them i just think its weird how so many ftms care so little about bone structure specifically. like my bone structure i borderline obsess over. that seems more like a mtf thing and i get that has a freater impact on passing for them but i have to imagine dysphoria is also a big contributor

to add to my last reply, thats the thing i don't understand how they can be so content with what they can get. and regular men do have consistent noticeable differences (to a trained eye) between them and women

Can relate to all except the hairy and muscular part.

i wasn't concerned with hair until i started getting it. love it though i want more. dont really like it on anyone expect myself tho so i get it lol

I don't think any of us are saying we are better or more heckin valid than those totally gnc doods...just that it would be nice to know others more like us...

honestly the way they dress doesn't matter to me, i just don't understand how they find anatomy to be so unimportant to them. even the non dysphorics. you'd think they'd still want to look entirely male physically even if they have no discontentment with their current state

I wanna be an ultra passoid in the way jojo men are. I want to be a high fashion wearing conventionally attractive man who averages at 6 feet tall. i wanna look like michealangelo's david chode and all. its hard to describe specifics when everything's already there but god do i want to look like a master crafted statue of the male figure, like a painting made by the old masters, by Cabanel or Bouguereau. A lot of my inspiration for what I want to look like comes primarily from classical art of men.

Facial masculinisation is not practised as a niche transsexual surgery in the same fashion as FFS. These procedures are generally undergone by cis men and performed by general-purpose cosmetic surgeons. Look for the specific procedures you want and research surgeons who perform those.

Actual implants for shape enhancement (ex. of the jaw or brows) are permanent, whereas fillers only last about two years. There are invasive procedures that can fundamentally reconstruct the shape of the face using existing bone a la FFS, but they're very limited. Leg lengthening to enhance height also exists, but it puts about 1 in 10 patients in a wheelchair.

t. poonman getting sliding genioplasty to make my lower mandible longer

This. I literally just wanna be a statue.

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Not really, but I am going to go to the gym at college this year. Ideal male for me is a slim masculine farmer boy twink/twunk. My goals are still well within the range of "average male" but I do expect to have to work to get there

whats the agp equivalent for ftms

autoandrophilia/aap

Women settle for what they got. The most quality men strive for more. op is based.

AAP but Blanchard said it wasn't real and it's just autohomoeroticism (AHE)