Was this joke really so harmful...

Was this joke really so harmful? I find it hard to believe that gay people like myself are hurt and appalled by this joke. It has to be a minor but very large group from social media.

Calling this joke “homophobic” is just a lie.

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That’s a cute outfit. Did your husband gift it to you?

so uh
they're literally editing films orwell style?

idk, it feels weird to erase homophobia stalin-style
just dont do it in the future and when u rewatch it go "eh, thats a pretty uncool"

>Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past

Networks censor stuff all the time, voluntary censure is not orwellian

Kind of gay but it's not all that different from all the cuts and edits they did to movies playing on tv in the 80s.
I'm more annoyed by:
>Disney+ has actually made much more significant edits to recent projects like The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, where violent scenes were digitally altered a few months after the show’s original broadcast.
They could at least give people the option to watch unedited versions.

>voluntary censure is not orwellian
It's literally in 1984. While most censure occurs at the ministry of truth Orwell takes great pains to explain "double think".

excuse me? every movie on a network that has explicit language censored or explicit scenes removed or blurred, is "Orwellian" now? Disney edits their films all the time to hide their past racism.

nope into the vault it goes. they've always been like this, if not for the internet, the unaltered Fantasia and stuff would only exist in obscure books on the subject and the rare old VHS tapes if they exist. there are even some high-quality Mickey shorts that have never been re-released on home video just because they didn't aesthetically or tonally "fit the brand".

its not about whether theyre being forced, i just dont know why we have to act like films werent homophobic back then or something.
whos gonna know? they wont care to look it up.

>excuse me? every movie on a network that has explicit language censored or explicit scenes removed or blurred, is "Orwellian" now?
Yeah it’s getting Orwellian

Bruh, its literally common to censor stuff on networks. You gonna scream orwell when a network censors profanity or nudity? Have you considered homophobia is as distasteful as the above to a modern audience?

I agree it's dumb but I understand its purpose, and it is by definition not Orwellian if information about the original product/artwork, and the original artwork itself, is readily available. Disney's vault stuff is more indefensible, and just an insult to the original artists, but they do not literally deny that the unaltered versions ever existed.

it's honestly more concerning to me that they bought the whole Fox catalogue and now those films can't be shown at private screenings, it's much more draconian.

the ministry of truth is a literal government organization forcing people to censor stuff.
broadcasting stations are voluntarily censoring their own broadcasts because they just dont agree with it themselves.
these are two completely different ways of censorship.
one is involuntary and threatened by force of action by the gobberment.
the other is an independent org deciding independently to take out a part of a movie.
dont quote orwell improperly to fit your narrative dumbass.

>Disney edits their films all the time to hide their past racism.
maybe they
shouldn't do that

also I got the impression that this was the version put out on streaming and whatever new home video releases there were, fuck if I'm going to george takei's twitter to find out the story

Bro over here will screech at western media for cutting a homophobic joke and then without a hint of irony suck russian dick like a sloppy whore
Lost cause

it showed that peter was a flawed individual, thus alluding to the dark peter he would become in spiderman 3... it was an essential scene, and yet only true cinephiles notice this

There are no independent organisations anymore, there is just one agenda and many different mouthpieces

I think it's important to retain the context and cultural attitudes of when these films were made? You don't edit books to better reflect modern sensibilities unless you label it as an explicitly new edition...

Like, I say this as a kid and ya, it 100% helped to reinforce the idea that being gay was bad and aberrant, but that doesn't mean if should be prettified.

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This is why I pirate media. I have tens of terabytes of films and television in their original forms in my basement, I am the modern library of alexandria. Historians will find my archive and the Any Forums of 500 years in the future will use it to show the public how culture used to be, as ammo to overthrow their corrupt socialist oppressors.

it was a different time...