Normal cis men don't think about being woman

>normal cis men don't think about being woman
okay, but what if they were exposed to the idea for over years continuously until they warmed up to it because it became more appealing the more i read about it and because trans women tend to be pretty cool people
i'm a cis man who wishes he had dysphoria or AGP

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OP I'm literally the same. Trannies seem to be high IQ, high empathy superhumans and the way they all look out for eachother is incredibly endearing. Makes me wanna be a cool tranny but alas I'm a retarded cis het.

>the way they all look out for eachother is incredibly endearing
eh i wouldn't go that far

i just think well adjusted trans women are living a better life than me and i'm jealous i guess. i should be jealous of cis women instead but i guess i just feel this is something i could have been

>i'm a cis man who wishes he had dysphoria or AGP
You're blessed to not have either.
Both are absolute hell in their own sense.

Being born trans isn't a choice, but taking estrogen is. If you somehow have convinced yourself that its the right idea for you, than no one has a right to stop you.

I'd just make sure you spend a day or two to think about the impacts that it will have on your body before you commit to it. Do you want to have boobs on your chest? Do you want to lose halve wide hips and soft skin? Are you ok with losing muscle mass? How about being treated as a woman by others? You don't have to be glad that boys will be horny for you but there's a high probability for it to happen. If you are into women, can you imagine calling yourself a lesbian? If you are into men can you imagine yourself in a straight relationship?

If this seems like a good thing overall, might as well take the E. Also if that seems like a good thing you are probably trans.

AGP fetishist here.

Yeah the idea of men being into me is disgusting unless its strictly online, and then it's hot because its nonpersonal, weirdly confidence boosting, and also I can leverage it for simpbuxx. But I would never want guys IRL to look at me like a piece of fuckmeat or comment on my body - yknow, like I do to *actual* women.

For this reason I will never entertain my fantasies in actuality.

confident trannies are absolutely irresistible for some reason

probably. what i really have is TOCD but now my brain is screaming at me to transition. i wish i had AGP so i could at least know that transition would help

>Do you want to have boobs on your chest? Do you want to lose halve wide hips and soft skin?
yes
>Are you ok with losing muscle mass?
i'm ok with it physically but as a man i'm expected to lift shit and if i can't it would be a problem
>How about being treated as a woman by others?
never going to happen but i would want to be treated as a woman

>But I would never want guys IRL to look at me like a piece of fuckmeat or comment on my body
i'd probably get overwhelmed from the attention. sometimes guys would mistake me for a woman or stuff online and i never knew how to react

>Wishes he had dysphoria

No. No you fucking don't. You don't want this, you don't want this, you don't want this.

You don't want to be one of the most despised group despite being less than 1% of the world population.

You don't want to have a 50/50 chance of taking your own life.

You don't want to feel disgust and hatred of your own body every day of your life, while assuming others view you the same.

And most of all YOU DON'T WANT EXPENSIVE ASS SURGERY AND HORMONES THAT CAN END UP FUCKING UP YOUR BODY.

Take this as a fucking wake up call dude, if you don't have dysphoria and only like feminine things, BE DAMN GRATEFUL FOR THAT AND LIVE YOUR FEMBOY LIFE YOU LUCKY MOTHER FUCKER.

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>i want all the changes from estrogen
>i'm not trans i have TOCD

cope

desu if you enjoy it online, I would wager you wouldn't be as disgusted by it irl as you'd think. The confidence boost is amplified, and you can get guys to do stuff for you easier.

>I'm a cis man who wishes he had dysphoria or AGP
why would you want this you stupid faggot?

I'm not bottombbrained or even bi. I'm straight. In real life if another man calls my masculinity into question I consider it a threat and will act accordingly. It's all just a fetish online kek. I wouldn't want men to look at me like a woman.

>never going to happen but i would want to be treated as a woman
You'd be surprised user, if you could be described as a manlet you are most likely going to turn into a passoid even if you transition fairly late.

>You don't want to feel disgust and hatred of your own body every day of your life
i already have this though

>FEMBOY LIFE
aren't femboys on hrt now? and i'm too masc to be a femboy

because i don't really like being a straight male

>if you could be described as a manlet
probably not i'm several inches taller than the average female

That's fair, but when you aren't jacking off do you still want boobs and stuff? If the only one of those things you have a problem with is guys looking at you in a horning way I would probably still go for it.

> because i don't really like being a straight male
I’m sure that’s dysphoria…

>probably not i'm several inches taller than the average female
How many inches though? If you are less than 5'10 it probably won't be a huge deal. If you are less than 5'7 your height would be more typical for a female than a male.

>i wish i had AGP
bitch I'm repressing because I have AGP. I will never be able to dress as a woman outside without getting a fucking boner.

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And injecting hormones in your body won't help!

Hormone therapy assists to gender dysphoria. Not regular body problems. You're going to make yourself WORSE especially if something goes fucking wrong.

And let's see how those femboys on HRT will be in ten years. OH WAIT THEY'LL BE DEAD BECAUSE THEY FUCKED THEIR BODY AND SEX DRIVE WITH TREATMENTS THAT WERE NEVER MEANT FOR THEM.

YOU ARE GOING TO RUIN YOUR FUCKING LIFE YOU IDIOT. I AM TRYING TO SAVE YOUR ASS BY TELLING YOU THE TRUTH.

I like it better when mtfs tell me things like "go for it girl!" rather than hearing a, ahem, bio foids measured opinion thanks.

This is a dumb reason, hrt will kill your erections before you have a chance of passing well enough.

i jack off to straight porn and imagine myself as a man fucking women and then i feel bad about doing so. i don't know if hormones can overwrite the straight male in me

i feel like a straight man 100% all the time. i have to force myself to enjoy AGP content or imagine myself as a girl. being a guy comes naturally to me

i hate that i get boners to the idea of fucking women with my dick. i hate it. i have no interest in dating women but i'm physically attracted to them in an objectifying way. it grosses me out

the part of me that agrees with you is why i'm not on hormones

well the point of these threads is more venting and to see what others in my shoes have done and how they think about it. the people who are less sure about hormones i don't know what they do

When you and every single one of those numb dicked hons end up on the wrong end of the 50%, you'll wish you listened to this bio foid.

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I don't want to be turned on. even without erections this will still be a problem.
is there any way for me to be not turned on? I'm not always turned on while I'm wearing feminine clothes but how to I reduce the amount to almost zero?
Also how long do I have to take HRT in order to not get erections anymore?

>how long do I have to take HRT in order to not get erections anymore?
It was like a week for me

literally just start hrt. you'll be fine in a few months

>i hate that i get boners to the idea of fucking women with my dick
It's a problem because you feel like you can't be trans and be attracted to women?
I've seen many trans women in happy relationships with other trans women, what's the problem really?

>but what if they were exposed to the idea for over years continuously until they warmed up to it
normal cis men do not get exposed to that much gender shit over the years. you only find that by looking for it or being such an obvious tranny that algorithms recognize it before you do and give you the internet tranny content you didnt even know you wanted yet

>i don't know if hormones can overwrite the straight male in me
I wouldn't really read too much into sexuality, afaik most tranners get basically a completely new set of interests. Like I went from mostly straight to mostly straight. And now I just want to kiss and cuddle and I only think about sex sometimes.

>I'm not always turned on while I'm wearing feminine clothes but how to I reduce the amount to almost zero?
dissociate feminine clothing with sex? it isnt that hard just do nonsexual stuff in it and purposefully resist any sexual urges that might come up. it's just conditioning.

you'll eventually get an irl boyfriend and like it too, sorry kid

I was also about a week, and it stops feeling sexy when you are used to doing it. Switched stuff over slowly so it never caused an issue.

you're AGP