How do I tell if my face will pass after HRT and FFS?

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you dont and go for it accepting that being a girly eunichmoder is better than getting any more masc

It won't, if you don't pass pre-FFS you're pretty fudged

Holy cope
Why don’t people accept that suicide is better than not passing?

I learned this the hard way OP. Still, you should try. What have you got to lose?

What if the only thing that needs changing is a type 3 brow reduction, but everything else such as the eyes, nose, and mouth and the size ratio of those is feminine?

because it's not? Like sure I would have largely prefered to be a deep-stealth gigapassoid, and when I started my plan was that or suicide, but this is perfectly ok. I have pretty hair, and wear fairly cute androgynous clothes, and my friends all see and treat me as a woman, as does my family. I live a pretty good life as an androgynous twinkhon, and it's miles better than repressing or offing myself

bump

y tho?

look at caitlyn jenner. all that money and still doesn't pass a single bit. if you are at her level of genetics/looks, and don't have much resources then no, you will not pass.

Well honey shes over 60 afaik money cant make you younger

>What else have you got to-ACK

Being a hon is worse than death. Being male is slightly better than death
Its notspvya

Shit.

neither can money make anyone, regardless of age, genetically predisposed not to pass to be able to pass.

(not op) so as long as I'm not actively suicidal and I cant pass pre-hrt. I should just continue to rep?

you might not be actively suicidal now, but how about when you're 30 or 40?
you won't be any more passable then either

I'm not sure if i ever will be. I have had these feelings since I was really young and I've been able to be emotionally stable. I've never been a cutter, never gotten any closer to being suicidal, etc.
the depression has pretty much stayed the same throughout the years

that's what I used to think
I've never been actively suicidal, but I've been close, and I've been unhappy and depressed for at least a decade now. I've preferred the idea of being a girl since I was young, but didn't feel like I actively hated being a man. Just felt disconnected from it I guess.
But I turn 26 next week and I cracked hard the other day, I'm working on getting hrt soon I hope. It's not worth being unhappy like this the rest of my life, I'll never pass but I could manmode and maybe be a twinkhon if I'm lucky. It's very scary but I'm more scared of cracking at 30 or 40 and being completely fucked, instead of still looking pretty young.

well I'm turning 25 this year. so not far behind you.
I've never been close to being actively suicidal ever. I feel like the "suffering" I have is like 10% compared to what others describe, the main thing is just numbness. which although sucks, is livable. whereas I won't pass and actually might look so bad after hrt that I actually become actively suicidal.

well maybe you'll be fine. I just hope that I'll feel better enough on hrt that it'll be worth it, even if I just have to manmode and live as a gay male forever. Just be sure you aren't going to do it, because the window is closing fast

>25
>26
How does one come out of the closet at this age?

>How does one come out of the closet at this age?
I plan on not doing so until I can't hide it, and then figuring it out then

I'll think through it a bit more. but I'm worried

if you mean coming out to others. idk I haven't done anything yet. prob not, or if by some miracle I pass and then am malefailing then I'll do it then. otherwise will probably just manmode around them forever.
if you mean haven't really figured it out until more recently, it's because I never really had any exposure to this stuff, so I was definitely aware of these feelings (dissociation, depression, dysphoria, desire/daydreams about being a woman, etc) I just never thought much of them or had the proper terms to describe them, cause other than that stuff I don't have much to complain about in life/how I was raised, so I just kinda pushed my struggles aside since others had it worse than I did. it wasn't until I saw some stories and stuff that was trans related, where I associated with it more than anything else I have before.

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