>See conversation about trans people being included in sports
>Decide to weigh in for some reason
>"Well I think you should really look at it on a case by case basis instead of just blanket banning trans women"
>Immediate shitstorm
Why are cis people like this and how do I stop myself from trying to reason with them about this ever again?
Why would trannies claim anyone who identifies as a woman is a woman, no ifs or buts or exceptions, then start making exceptions in sports? It's a contradiction. Either the physical difference between male and female matters or it doesn't, and if it matters in sports why not in other areas?
to me it matters in sports in a different way. if a cis woman takes a bunch of androgens (or has a hormonal imbalance), she needs to stop. if she did it or had it early enough that she gets a significant physical advantage from it even AFTER stopping for a long time, then she should be disqualified from professional womens sports because she would have a major advantage over other women.
same applies to trans women. case by case because it depends if they have any androgen exposure induced permanent advantages.
most cis people hate that idea and im like its literally the only fair way to do it that's trans-inclusive.
> captcha LVDMT
sports are a religion to cis people
okay then, let's do case by case for trannies using women's toilets and shit too.
The sports must flow.
Do not mess with sports, cis people follow one God and it’s sports. Anyone who tries to mess with it gets crucified
yeah because the physical advantages you have when shitting really affect other bathroom users.
gtfo lol
That's already basically how it works anyway, it's just done informally based on how well someone passes
If you pass then you're in and if you don't then you're out, even if you're actually cis
the fair way to do it is to open up PED use to all athletes. let them compete at the highest level
That's already how it works
>hon walks into womens toilets
>screaming and crying
>gigapasser youngshit walks into womens toilets
>no one even realizes
that's essentially forcing people to fuck up their bodies and health if they want a chance to compete, and in womens sports specifically forcing them to go FTM.
fuck no.
You say that like anyone gave a shit about women's sports before we were in the spotlight
why segregate them at all then?
tranny logic implies there shouldn't be any separate spaces or sports but you're too cowardly to make the argument in public.
>then start making exceptions in sports?
Not all women are allowed in sports either, such as those who take steroids. is that discrimination?
i don't think even taking steroids disqualifies you for life.
but are you saying that being a tranny is equivalent to cheating in sports?
Yes
T. Mtf who transitioned at 29 is 5 10 and was in the military. I literally have an amab body. HRT does a lot, I'm not saying I'm not a woman but obviously it there is a differance. If there wasn't I wouldnt be transitioning at all would I? There would be no difference.
What about youngshits?
What about trans men?
Or trans women who were never masc to begin with?
You can't just write off every tranny like that
Because trannies are taking exogenous hormones. FTMs cannot compete fairly due to exogenous testosterone - MTFs cannot compete fairly with women due to having been testosteronized, and they can’t usually compete against men anyway due to estrogen.
It’s simple - if you’re body-modding, you don’t compete in professional sports. Cis women can freely take T, bus cis women in T can’t compete. It’s literally just about that.
Unless there’s some form of competitive pissing cis women engage in, I’m not sure the exogenous-endogenous nature of someone’s hormonal composition is relevant for bathroom use
Just don't get into sports you freak
I don’t see why not. “Not being able to participate in sports” is a fair sacrifice for “being able to live as your authentic self”. Being part of a professional league isn’t a fucking human right.
And yes, I know they have no real competitive advantage over cis women. It doesn’t matter. It’s good optics for us to let the sports issue go, and the suffering this causes for trans politics is much greater than the suffering of the poor youngshits who can’t become underpaid and undervalued female “athletes” anyway
okay, so if the effects of hormones are important in sports, why not other areas of life?
>"Well I think you should really look at it on a case by case basis instead of just blanket banning trans women"
This is a dumb position. What are you going to do, only allow transwomen who are likely to lose compete in women's sports?
i don't think women's sports should exist, women should simply compete against men directly
Go and open your wrists in a bathtub cunt
>misogynist trannoid
Shock!
did you try that on your last attempt, troon?
Because it’s generally understood that sports demand competition on equal terms from all parties. Daily life isn’t a ranked competition.
Whatever the case, I don’t give a fuck about sports. I just want tranny panic to leave the news cycle so I can live in peace, and every time Lia Thomas competes she ignites it all over again. Any tranny in competitive sports is a selfish asshole throwing us under the bus for money and prestige.
bet these have the same ip