Autosapphoeroticism is an AMAB person's tendency to get aroused at the idea of being a woman and having physical and emotional intimacy with another woman.
I was curious what percentage of female-attracted mtfs experienced this phenomenon and whether it was more common among bi or transbian mtfs, so I wanted to perform a survey. Please leave any additional comments you have on this phenomenon below.
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I am ftm but for some reason i think being a lesbian is way hotter tho
But dysohoria sucks
Horny brain is weird
I mean all the HSTSes think it's hot to get misgendered in bed too so I think you're pretty normal. I think it's just the transbians who are weirdos and want to pretend that them dating women isn't straight.
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Isn't this just being sapphic? Cis bi/lesbian women get aroused at the thought of physical and emotional intimacy with another woman.
no they don't? even half the trannies in this thread don't have ASE.
Maybe I'm not understanding what ASE is then.
I am a woman. I'm bi. If I imagine myself having physical/emotional intimacy with another woman I get aroused, obviously. My cis female partner also get aroused if she imagines intimacy with another woman. Why do completely normal, vanilla as fuck sexual fantasies have a special name if the person having them is trans?
If you're a woman don't get aroused imagining being intimate with another woman you're probably straight or asexual?
wait are you a woman or a tranny
I'm a bi trans woman.
I know that this has probably been worked out by people debating over agp, but if I imagining myself being intimate with a woman, am I supposed to imagine myself as a manly man or something for it to not be a fetish? I have a body that looks like a woman and have had srs lol why wouldn’t I just be myself in my fantasies?
Although I guess usually I don’t really picture myself in like the third person or anything, is that what ase means? Usually my focus is on the other person and our interactions in my fantasies
well regardless it clearly isn't some universal #justwomanthing, as you can see only half the people in the survey responded "yes"
My theory is that it's a specifically male fetish that causes some males to transition, and the "trans" community is divided between transsexuals who have genuine dysphoria, and male lesbian fetishists who just transition because they think girl on girl is hot.
well yeah me too but the fetish isn't having a 3rd person camera, it's getting to experience the intimacy as a woman, both in the sense of having your partner relate to you and love you the way they would a woman, and having a female body that can experience the intimacy the way a woman could. This is what defines ASE.
ASE is a term specifically for males because a man fetishizing being a lesbian is not the same as being an actually lesbian
I mean i think it is stupid to have a term for that and it does have some weird undertones of wanting to make it a paphology, but i guess we are not taking it very seriously, and we are using the term as meaning that what exited you is engaging in lesbian sex specifically, not feeling your partners body while you just happen to be female, which is different, none of those things are wrong or significant in any way other than curious and memeshy
Why do you think genuine dysphoria precludes having fantasies where you are a woman? Wouldn't dysphoria cause that instead?
Why would a trans woman with dysphoria have fantasies where she is a man? Obviously she's going to be a woman in her fantasies.
Why do trans lesbians get especially targeted for this? Most straight trans women are women in their own erotic thought as well.
Girl on girl is hot but that's not why I transitioned. Guy on girl is hot too.
Oh, then whatever, I just fantasize about being with men and women in my own body, so..? I guess I’m not that? I don’t really care about the orientation of my partners, although everyone I’ve dated has identified as bi, straight men, or lesbians as far as they’ve talked to me about their orientation. Is this one of those “it’s [fetish] if your ugly, normal if you look good” kinds of things?
> having a female body that can experience the intimacy the way a woman could.
I don’t really know what that means though. I can only experience pleasure the way I experience pleasure.
>what exited you is engaging in lesbian sex specifically, not feeling your partners body while you just happen to be female, which is different
I guess I just don't understand how those are different. Obviously lesbians are going to get excited by lesbian sex specifically.
My cis girlfriend does things all the time that if a MtF were to do them, this board would probably say is peak AGP transbian (ASE) behavior. Like squishing our boobs together and saying "I love seeing our tits pressed up against each other like this" or cuddling naked and saying "I love how we're the same size and we're both so soft" I stg she's more AGP/ASE than I am.
>Why do you think genuine dysphoria precludes having fantasies where you are a woman? Wouldn't dysphoria cause that instead?
because genuine dysphoria is caused by having a female brain and actual women don't fetishize girl-on-girl.
>Why would a trans woman with dysphoria have fantasies where she is a man? Obviously she's going to be a woman in her fantasies.
Actual transsexuals don't make their gender part of the fantasy because they don't fetishize lesbians. They're attracted to women, not the idea of being treated intimately by a woman as a woman.
>Why do trans lesbians get especially targeted for this? Most straight trans women are women in their own erotic thought as well.
Same as above. They don't imagine being the woman specifically, they just like guys.
You know, having breasts/vulva that can be touched, having the more warm arousal you get on estrogen instead of the urgent need to coom the way men do, plus not being a hulking man towering over your partner and making everything asymmetrical and making you want to die.
>or cuddling naked and saying "I love how we're the same size and we're both so soft" I stg she's more AGP/ASE than I am.
I feel absolutely disgusting for craving this as a straight man.
Yeah same with my cis wife (lol we met long after I transitioned and she didn’t know I’m trans when we met)
>I feel absolutely disgusting for craving this as a straight man.
You shouldn't
Zoomrs and late millennial lesbians are just cringe
Also some those phrases seem to be talking about shit in comparison to having a male partner, are they bi?
Still cute tho
he should though. fetishizing lesbians IS disgusting
It is perverted for men to want what doesn't belong to them. That kind of happiness does not belong to hulking coomer neanderthals who would only defile it with their simian physiques, engorged cocks, and twisted fetishistic brains.
> You know, having breasts/vulva that can be touched,
But I know what it’s like to have those things touched and they’re what I have, even if the vulva is surgically constructed and it’s impossible to know if what I feel is similar to what cis women feel (although i imagine it’s probably not). I guess i didn’t really think too much about having a D while fantasizing before surgery tho
> having the more warm arousal you get on estrogen instead of the urgent need to coom the way men do, plus not being a hulking man towering over your partner and making everything asymmetrical and making you want to die.
I transitioned at 15 and while I’m 5’7” so I’m not short, i have never really “towered” over anyone I’ve been intimate with. I enjoy it when i coom but isn’t that everyone?
I don't know what it means either, I never heard of a ASE or whatever it is?
Oh fuck one of the ntr mitosis
Literally what is disgusting about wanting to be a lesbian?
>because genuine dysphoria is caused by having a female brain and actual women don't fetishize girl-on-girl.
This is complete nonsense because if you really had a female brain you wouldn't fetishize anything like that!
I’m a regular millennial i just transitioned pretty young
I agree 100%!