Wouldn't you rather cure yourself and live as a man rather than turn yourself into a hon?
Asking as a dysphoric dude who would become a hon if he transitioned and I'm having a fucking mental breakdown cuz I can't find any therapists who know how to fix me without transitioning.
dude, i wish, but conversion therapy isnt real. use your head pls
Because it doesnt work. Its just psychological torture camps that traumatize you and then bill you for it.
you can't alter how a brain is wired dumbass. I'm much more comfortable and happy this way.
You can't find anybody because nobody can do it.
If it were possible I think most wouldn't transition
conversion therapy doesn't work. most of what these retards do is tell how you're going against what god intended, make you go camping on some random place and force religion on you, instead of actually talking about the issue. and even if they were, it still wouldn't work, because gender and identity doesn't work like that
I like where they have special camps for the wayward christian kids and put all the gay teens together in the same cabin.. what could go wrong!
conversion therapy doesn't work
It’s not banned in nearly enough of the US.
because it's really about sexual desire
You can live ur life without transitioning. It just wouldn't be by curing your dysphoria, it would be by accepting and living with it.
this is terrible ;__;
>live life as a fraud while it's painfully clear to others you aren't your gender
yeah no. You can't make a woman live as a man. One day she'll take over and it won't be pretty.
It's the wrong approach. Want to cure transgenders from trooning, help them deal with their repressed homosexuality. Some trans are aware of their homosexual desires and troon anyway because they are extremely feminine or very oppressed like some homosexuals in third world countries. Now some other trannies believe they are heterosexual and think they're lesbian. They are resistant to treatment because they cannot cope with being homosexual. Therapy would cure them if it focused on accepting their homosexuality.
>it's painfully clear to others
Is it though?
I won't pretend that nobody picked up on it but, like, how?
Because no amount of electroconvulsive torture and/or psychological abuse will make the trans go away.
yes just like people can tell someone who's gay because it's impossible to hide all your mannerisms. Even if you get good at it you end up always looking a bit fake and off like a sociopath does who tries to fit in.
Few are good enough at it to skate by but there's a reason why most tranners were incels. Women know. If you're out as a homo prior it's a bit easier.
not that you are a sociopath, but that's how they are spotted, by not being able to fit in fully. Something seems off.
Now they don't know "oh user here is a woman" but they'll think you're gay or not manly enough or a wimp or effeminate or something.
Idk I love in a constant state of misery being seen as male but everyone thinks I'm 100% fine. I guess people noticing requires them to actually give a shit about you
do you fit into male spaces? Do you engage in competitive activities? Do guys rely on you for things?
How do women treat you? Do they act girly around you and playful or do they treat you like another girl? What happens when dating them? How do they act?
Never said it would be enjoyable. Youre going to have to deal with a lot of emotional pain, but dysphoria itself can't kill you. But im sure there's people out there who find a way to deal with it. Somehow.
I don't interact with anyone user I just go to classes, and then back to my dorm room and eat when I need to. Also I've never bothered with dating
Now that depends, if they are aware they're homosexual, they usually self select themselves to troon if they have the physical body for being more female, they choose to troon out, but if they look like men, they don't troon.
With autogynephilia it's very different. They believe their sexuality is being trans, not an attraction to another person. They fail to fully understand their sexuality.
>dysphoria can't kill you
you're totally clueless on this so let me paint a picture.
Imagine being forced to live a way that always feels alien to you. You never feel like yourself, you never fit in fully with those around you, your life is one of misery because you're playing the wrong fucking role.
You then try the other role and your entire world opens up. It's like you're finally seeing color and hearing laughter for the first time in your life.
Sure some of us can go back and forth and not bother, but the rest of us are fucking stuck in the wrong body. Your brain develops independently from your body during gestation when your gender alters from girl to boy (we all start out as girl), and some of us our body changes gender but our brains are wired to the other gender either partially or mostly or completely. It's not our fault.
Don't try to force us into a life we don't want.
ok so you don't have any context in regards to what I'm talking about. You would have to interact and find social roles in order to understand how people would perceive you.
Why do you isolate?
>Your brain develops independently from your body during gestation when your gender alters from girl to boy
This is awkward and unclear. The body includes the brain, so you need to explain how the brain can develop differently. It takes more words than a sentence.
OP here. The issue isn't just homosexual desires (I'm openly bisexual), the fact is that having penetrative sex with a penis has very little appeal to me, nor does having anything up my ass. I'm sure I'd get off if I had a partner and had to use my dick cuz at the end of the day sex is sex, but when masturbating I can only really think about having a vagina that gets penetrated. Also just an envy of the female body.
It's just frustrating. I know deep down this shit is gonna get worse if I repress but I would genuinely look like a hon caricature, my current appearance has been compared by a ton of people to Jon Snow from GoT, I could see my face passing if I got FFS for my brow ridge but my body just isn't happening.
I just wish I got told what I was experiencing was dysphoria when I was a kid. I wouldn't even say what I did as a kid would count as repression; the thing is, growing up in the lily-white Atlanta suburbs, trans people were such an "other", so far beyond the pale of what was culturally acceptable where I was, that I legit assumed the thoughts I was having were some kind of weird fetish and it didn't even occur to me that I might be trans until I moved to a major city for a job in my mid 20s where that sort of thing was more accepted.
I had the sort of parents that would let me transition too if I had come out at that age. Just feels like I was cheated out of the life I was supposed to have due to a lack of information and I don't know how I'm going to cope for the next 50 years.
Yeah maybe you're right, I guess having long hair doesn't help but that may explain the rest
A couple of my friends always used to joke about me secretly being a trap (this was like 2014 or something) and I've gotten pretty used to just randomly being called the female version of my name
Idk it just seems like I'd never be that perceptive so it's hard to imagine that other people can see it
Because I see myself as inferior compared to everyone for being trans this I don't deserve to socialize, Andi also don't want anyone knowing I'm on hrt if they ended getting too close to me and finding out
>we start out as girls
>hormones and genes determine what we should end up as
>testosterone is introduce and starts developing ovaries into testes and clit into penis and other male differences early on
>a couple of months later the brain starts developing towards male in males
a disconnect between the two occurs for any number of reasons (apparently hormonal imbalances in the mother can be common) and the brain doesn't develop fully into a male brain like it should otherwise.
I'm sorry you are stuck with that shitty situation user. Do you feel comfortable around family? Is it just UNI? How do you think you would feel around other trans?
If you feel this bad I'm going to guess that family situation may not be ideal either.