Passing femmes only

Wtf do you do to not let the sexualization and infanilization get into your head?

I dont' want to be seen as a bitch for wanting my idea heard or not liking the 'your just a tech bimbo' joke

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just…deal with it? i guess i understood in an abstract way before i transitioned the ways in which i would be treated more unfairly in my day-to-day life. you deal with it the same way every cis woman deals with it: as best as you can:)

>just…deal with it?

I swear I hate this I talk with cis women about what they do specifically and its 'suck it up' or 'welcome to being a woman'.

HOW do you actually go about that tho? HOW do you not feel like shit from people just assuming lessor and lessor of you? HOW do you feel confident in your self regardless of that that? I've started internalizing that shit and thinking I'm retarded, when I'm not I was mistaken for a professor now what some 'bimbo'?

I feel like I've optionally became more childish now people expect it.

I have to jedi mind trick people into taking me serious

I have a passing body and voice but I nerf both to get less attention from guys.

>you deal with it the same way every cis woman deals with it: as best as you can

>how do you draw the owl? Do what people that draw do, draw an owl
...thanks

If you don't want to be a woman anymore then just detrans?

Sorry OP. That's rough.

Jerk lol

i vent about it to my friends later :p i’ve basically stopped hanging out with my guy friends because they just yell over me

>Jerk
No seriously. If you're not enjoying womanhood then why stay there? It's fine to be any gender you want!

Unfortunately if you stand up for yourself you’re seen as a bitch and catty but if you don’t people will try and take advantage of you and men will probably take it as a form of attraction and pursue you. The best action is usually to just walk away or shut the down conversation completely.

You know why. It's not something most of us get to determine.

IDK, I'm a teacher so that really isn't an issue in my workplace. Benefits of a female dominated profession. In terms of friends I basically dropped most of my hetero male friends and just hang out with women and fellow queers instead.

literally the one time i stood up for myself, i left early because i had an early morning, and my roommate said they all talked about what a bitch i was lol. misogyny was cute for the first 5 minutes like “uwu validation” and now i get it.

this is why non-terf feminism is a thing and also ironically why terfs exist, men make women feel like shit, and they can't believe trans women are women because they look like men at first and are born with a penis... and now in their eyes, the people who oppressed them want to invade the few spaces they have left.

once you've been through it, it's hard to not feel sympathy even though they're completely wrong about us. i just wish they'd realize that we should all be on the same side here :/

noted need female friends

my cope for female TERFs is that and they ultimately are trying to make womens spaces better so eventually they'll be on our side.

lol yea that lines up with the stuff I was talking about, like I'd actually internalize I was being a bitch like a dummy

Now I’m scared about passing lol

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>If you don't want to be a woman anymore then just detrans?
> If you're not enjoying womanhood then why stay there?

I don't see 'being harassed' or 'valued less' as a part of 'womanhood'. It's a product of other people, not me or my identity.

Its better than not passing, but its not this 'all my problems are now solved' solution /tttt/ makes it out to be.

I intentionally dress like 2019 Billy Eillish cause of the looks I get when I try, it feels like I don't pass or I'm missing something. I have a vtuber level voice I nerf, so I have a chance at normal conversation with discord people. (my bf would make fun of me for being confused why it went silent when I join calls cause their intimidated by an anime voiced girl)

Its nice to have the option to control that stuff and get gendered correctly but ultimately sexism sucks. I also feel like a bitch for complaining cause I honestly feel like its the trans equivalent of 'ugh my life is so hard being a model'. Meanwhile can't communicate well I just went from a cave troll to looking above average so I have mega socialization whiplash

Thats why I said passoids only, not cause passing matters I just feel like a dick complaining about passing. Again its better than not passing, but its not this 'all my problems are now solved' solution /tttt/ makes it out to be.

Dont worry lol, I meant that if one day the stars aligned and I finally passed I’d feel shit by having all of that

You start girlbossing your way through life. Let spite motivate you.

Thanks

Smite them then
> make better friends
I… I’m pretty unlucky with friendships lol

>>how do you draw the owl? Do what people that draw do, draw an owl
I think the problem is that there's no easy step-by-step guide to feeling better that is anywhere near equivalent to saying step 1 draw a circle. step 2 draw a beak on the circle. it all comes down to either don't think about it or grow a thicker skin because fighting it almost never works.
All I can think of in terms of solid advice is: don't dwell on the bad experiences, surround yourself with positive friends who make you feel good, limit the time you spend voluntarily reading edgy misogynist shit like Any Forums = all make you feel less ground down by life. I would be less hurt by this stuff if I just ignored it but I can't stop myself from coming up with dumb strategies for how to win in confrontations like this and I think the most successful one so far is just shutting male coworkers out, interacting minimally and treating them coldly (not laughing at their jokes etc) when they piss me off by being cunty sexist bitches. If you are generally competent and well liked, then you can sometimes visibly hurt their feelings by shunning them and give them fomo from being shut out from your good graces, but even if it doesn't work like that, it feels pretty good.