After reading through some of it, I'm starting to realize the huge flaw in Kubo's writing. He's incapable of delivering powerful emotional moments. And the character of Kurotsuchi really made it obvious, because he contrasted perfectly with a very similar villain in One Piece. Kurotsuchi is shown to be a vile monster who tortured and killed an uncountable number of innocent people and wanted to do the same with Orihime. He also has a female zombie that he created, whom he constantly abuses out of sheer sadism. Ishida is faced with these things, and he promises to kill Kurotsuchi. A battle ensues, spiritual energy dicks are measured, Ishida wins, and Kurotsuchi is gone. His zombie slave defends him for no reason, and the ethics of his actions are not brought up again. He becomes a supporting character later. In One Piece, the crew encounters a villain named Dr. Hogback, a genius surgeon who learned how to revive the dead. Once again, he's mad and sadistic, and he has a zombie maid with a body of an actress on whom he had a one-sided crush and who happened to die young. He doesn't really care about people, he just wants to revel in his own insanity. He's faced with Chopper, who is the doctor of the main crew, and instead of a simple dick measuring, Hogback is forced into a battle of ethics. Chopper simply cannot stand how vile Hogback's actions are. And in the end, Chopper proves his point, when Cindry the maid refuses to help Hogback (despite his firm belief that she couldn't have a will of her own), and lets him get killed by another zombie.
Kubo here was concerned with showing a fight. Oda was concerned with telling a story. Kubo sets up a powerful evil enemy, lets the hero kick his ass, and that's all, the setup is never actually addressed. This is fine I guess, but it doesn't leave us with a strong overall impression. Oda, on the other hand, is only concerned with telling a story. This is why One Piece makes people cry where Bleach doesn't.
Yeah, Bleach is the best example of style over substance.
I like it, though, but it's not a manga that I would pick any day just because I think it's good.
Kevin Thomas
Bleach is more realistic because the woman loves her abuser
Logan Morris
Massive cope
Dylan Stewart
Whatever helps you sleep at night, bleachfag.
Cameron Sullivan
>words words words Warmpissfags will never understand the heart.
Adam Jones
>Kurotsuchi is shown to be a vile monster who tortured and killed an uncountable number of innocent people and wanted to do the same with Orihime. He also has a female zombie that he created, whom he constantly abuses out of sheer sadism. Ishida is faced with these things, and he promises to kill Kurotsuchi. A battle ensues, spiritual energy dicks are measured, Ishida wins, and Kurotsuchi is gone. His zombie slave defends him for no reason, and the ethics of his actions are not brought up again. He becomes a supporting character later.
Terrible example. The woman you're talking about is literally his creation born to assist him and has been reared like that all her life. He also doesn't make her do things he believes she's incapable of, because he analyzes her abilities. No, this is not a defense of Mayuri morality, but of his decisions. Mayuri is a piece of shit and an awful person. The story never pretends he isn't. Just as it doesn't pretend that the shinigami are the good guys. The gotei is filled with amorality, corruption, and downright criminals. Zaraki and Unohana admit to it outright. The only good guys in this setting are Ichigo and his real pals.
Cameron Russell
No one remembers Hogback, Cindry, or the Thriller Bark arc.
Everyone remembers Mayuri, Nemuri and Soul Society.
Brandon Phillips
This is just a stupid comparison. Oda intended for it to be emotional, Kubo did not. A lot of bleach's world building comes from the characters themselves. We see through the shinigami what kind of people live in that world, and through the captains we see that the soul society is home to various lines of thought. You had Kenpachi who was merely battle crazed, Kyoraku and Ukitake who were more compassionate and Mayuri who was obsessed with his ego. The point was never to make you cry. That's like me criticising the scene you posted because it's not funny and saying that Oda can't write gags - it was never the intention in the first place.
And anyway you failed to mention that Mayuri isn't a throwaway character like Hogback who continues to be relevant later in the series, so using this one fight early on in the series to gauge his depth is stupid. Nemu isn't forcibly controlled like Cindy is either, she's not a slave. She's his creation. She never had a life outside of Mayuri, her father is everything to her. She's also the culmination of his research instead, so she's his pride and joy in his own twisted way. Let's not forget that Cindy was the, what, 6th case of 'slavery bad'. It's not even anything new at this point but whatever makes you happy I guess
Tl;dr: another pissfag trying to drag a series down to shill his own crap, instead of using its own merits
Camden Murphy
>He becomes a supporting character later Caesar is basically the same character and he got off scot free too and you can even add Crocodile and several other heinous characters
>the setup is never actually addressed And this is how I can tell your retarded ass didn’t read Mayuri vs Pernida
Nathan Myers
Big Brain post, end results are still the same. Bleach sucks and Kubo can't tell a story, we have known this since 2010.
Alexander Stewart
Wrong.
Jose Roberts
How's Wano treating you? It's the Cancer that keeps on killing