>read shit tons of sports manga
>Most of them end like Touch and Slam Dunk and skip the National Tournament/Koshien (for baseball)
I always end up feeling cheated by sports manga. Slam Dunk's ending wasn't bad or anything I just wish it continued and didn't like the injury plot. Touch's ending pissed me. Skips the entire koshien event and just shows the trophy and also shoehorns in an injury for the MC
Read shit tons of sports manga
Read Eyeshield 21. Though that one has the opposite issue of continuing beyond the national tournament for a pretty unnecessary short arc afterwards.
>Skips the entire koshien event
That would've meant a good ten more volumes, and probably taken away from the MC's goal, though, but I get what you mean
Watch old sports anime that were going all the way to the Olympics or World Championships with the MCs representing the Japanese national team instead of being restricted to a single high school tournament
There’s no way you can pull that off in sports like soccer, basketball and baseball since even a great Japanese team would get mogged in those sports.
>Watch old sports anime
no need just watch Ao Ashi
>baseball since even a great Japanese team would get mogged in those sports.
Japan is actually very good in baseball and can compete internationally. The rest not so much
Because at the end of the day the national tournament isn't what's important, it's the grow that got them there. Also, arguably every spokon afterwards copies Touch's basic model.
>Because at the end of the day the national tournament isn't what's important, it's the grow that got them there
it's more like they don't know how to write national tournaments because to continue to present the MC's team as underdogs would be asinine
Japanese baseball team won 3 international tournaments. They've won the latast international tournament, Tokyo Olympic as well. About soccer they were top 16 in the last world cup, so would not be too much of stretch even if they win in a piece of fiction.
Basketball is the only sport that would be too unrealistic to be true
>Also, arguably every spokon afterwards copies Touch's basic model.
yikes no wonder
the big problem with sports manga is that they permanently peaked with Ashita no Joe and there will never, ever in history be anything better.
Ichiro Suzuki is inarguably one of the best baseball players in history, and Shohei Ohtani is basically universally considered the best and most electrifying player today. Japanese people fucking rule at baseball.
>I always end up feeling cheated by sports manga.
I always end up feeling cheated by most fiction nowadays, I can barely read or watch something serialized because 99% of the time I'll get cheated, they care more for popularity than good storytelling.
Also, this is the first time I posted in Any Forums in years just to tell this, now I'll go back to watch documentaries and read non-fiction, adios bros.
ping pong also shines
what non-fiction to read to replace spokon?
Ping Pong is the best sports anime of the past 20 years no doubt. That and Keijo.
>the big problem with sports manga is that they permanently peaked with Ashita no Joe and there will never, ever in history be anything better.
not even close
this isn't even worthy to compare to Ashita no Joe's toenails.
Ashita no Joe was good but it was nowhere near as good as you think
Best sports manga of all time. Possibly best manga of the 70s. The ending is probably the best of any manga ever made and is the most famous image in manga history. Literally inspired counterculture revolutionaries to take a plane hostage. It's a masterpiece.