So I read the first volume of this

So I read the first volume of this...

Well I will say it wasn't boring and the art was good...that's about it.

The writing was god awful and it clearly was made up as it went along, using shock value without any thought put into it in hopes of somehow making it deeper than it actually is.

Seriously the writing style reeks of a child with ADHD whose just throwing shit at the wall without regard for tone or pacing.

Felt no connection to anything happening once I became aware of the tricks used in the writing.

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Midwitest thread in the whole site right now.

>any amount of gore or sexual content is shock value
i’m convinced Any Forumsfags are 10 year olds who get scared watching an R rated movie

I for one loved that stream of consciousness writing style and found it very refreshing

>it clearly was made up as it went along
That's what makes it great
I felt the same way when I first read it
Keep at it

6 years later and the filter is still working

Only shock value "edgy for the sake of it" thing in the manga was the dog sex part. Everything else fit perfectly and felt justified.

Nah it wasn't that. The pacing was just legit fucked and I could tell that Fujimoto's idea of writing is to basically "Have a sudden shocking event happen to make it exciting", when the real reason is "I don't know what I'm doing so I'm just throwing shit at the wall".

It doesn't help also that the tone is incredibly inconsistent, with very jarring humour thrown in which makes it incredibly hard to figure out if this is meant to be funny or serious.

And for the record I enjoy things like Evangelion and Hokuto No Ken.

go back

So basically a first draft is the best version of a story? Worked for The Last Jedi...oh wait...

I don't know anything about Star Wars, but sure, sometimes. And who says Fire Punch was the first draft anyways?

The Last Jedi is a whole fucking film with a bunch of crew
This is just one insane man going page by page

i didnt think of it as edgy

That doesn't mean the writing is good. It just feels sorta pointless and aimless especially if the tone fluctuates wildly between silly comedy to something out of an exploitation film.

That's probably why I felt little engagement with it.

Filtered brainlet.

Goodbye Eri > Chainsaw Man > Just Listen to the Song > Look Back > Fire Punch

You just got filtered user. You're just the standard midwit.

> this whole post

> worldbuilding is now edgy for the sake of it

When did Any Forums get so bad?

Fire Punch > Look Back > Goodbye Eri > Chainsaw Man > Just Listen to the Song

I was talking more about pacing and the tone.

I could see the blatant emotional manipulation in how the characters are written also. And the bizarre scene after the two kids are mutilated with the girl talking about movies was just...really odd and didn't follow from the previous scene well at all.

it's target audience is suicidally depressed people who already read everything else

>blatant emotional manipulation
That's literally every single piece of media ever made. Christ you midwits are embarrassing

I liked Look Back a lot be cause I love meta stuff and I love Kyoani and so it was a really emotional double whammy

You're wrong. Every sentence

The narrative is consistent all through the story. If you can't even follow a story as simple as this one, that's your problem

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No shit. Though I think Fujimoto is just a bad writer more than anything.

It's especially bad if you are a bad writer though.

It amuses me when people criticise an anime/manga on the basis that they are badly written.

There are NO well written anime or manga. That is a fact. It’s a redundant criticism because the Japanese are universally incapable of what would be considered even semi-decent writing in the west. If you’re reading manga for “good writing” you’re doing it wrong and if there’s a manga you think is genuinely well written let me know so I can laugh at you.

Oh I can follow it just fine. It's just badly paced (too fast) and the tone is all over the place because he clearly doesn't know what the fuck his stories are meant to be.

It's on the same level as something like Hudson Hawk or Thor Love and Thunder (maybe that's a tad harsh but you get the idea).

It's simply not for you user, it's called a brainlet filter for a reason.

Stop trying to reason with it
If is THAT HARD for you just flip pages till something catches your eyes and I bet you'll keep reading.

Ok OP, you lose, this is the midwitest post in the whole site now: @240500647

When Togata started commenting about upping the stakes and revenge plot of so, you realize why the earlier chapters are full of those

Cowboy Bebop and Evangelion (despite it's production issues) I felt were quite solid writing wise.

Pfft HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. OP is a literal 16 year old.

But the writing sucked. I'm not expecting high art, but I knew something was up with this dude's writing when I read some of Chainsaw Man; the tone is all over the place and feels really sloppy and erratic, like a child with ADHD.

Every single manga is made up as it goes, all genres all mangaka

>It's just badly paced (too fast) and the tone is all over the place
That's Fujimoto's style and it's up to taste. It didn't feel jarring to me. That doesn't mean it's badly written.

You have as of yet to give any concrete reasons. Saying "it's X because I say so" is just pseudo intellectual nonsense.

>the tone is all over the place and feels really sloppy and erratic,
So an art must be coherent and logical to be considered good?

Don't feed the troll

FP expert here who has re-read the manga 20 times at least, AMA

Then it's bad taste then. I mean it's quite obviously appealing to midwits based on how many people are excited for the CSM anime.

Do you want me to give an indepth explanation as to why i felt it was bad?

1. The pacing is too fast and erratic.
2. The characters aren't developed properly especially the ones early on.
3. The plot relays mostly on shock value to engage with the viewer. This is not particularly good for reread value because there is no attempt to make actual suspense or build up to it, which is the more fulfilling and fun aspect. The part where Doma destroyed the village at the beginning I was like "Huh? That it?" when it happened, didn't feel much from it at all.
4. The humour is fucking awful and insanely juvenile. It feels incredibly jarring with the dark story telling and it frankly doesn't work; it renders the thing feeling like a joke with the way it's done, feels like watching something like Thor Love and Thunder/Hudson Hawk/Batman and Robin.
5. I am not sure if it's supposed to be reminiscent of an exploitation movie or a horror comedy. Those two things are quite a jarring tonal clash which is probably why it doesn't work for me.

What art?

Everything with you is "what is supposed to be" I know this is Any Forums but get out of that cage, you're sounding like an NPC

Then what is it then?

I'm sorry I value things like plot and tone.

is togata being trans and unable to transition a direct parallel to agni having an undying, forever burning body?
did they actually die in the last chapter?
was seeing a movie about his own life what made Sun (Agni) not commit suicide with the pills?