Are strict power levels that common in Manga and what is its utility? Does it always devalue any battle as the one with bigger numbers always should win?
Are strict power levels that common in Manga and what is its utility...
Liam Harris
Isaiah Sullivan
I can’t think of a single manga with power levels where a lower number guy doesn’t manage to beat a higher number guy somehow
Levi Gonzalez
Usually it's because they power up, mid fight. Or that they have another hax ability to compensate.
Eli Young
It's just very lazy. DBZ a lot of the time is just two energy conduits trying to break each other by mustering enough force.
People like this though, a lot more than the protagonist pulling trickery or employing strategy to win, because they want to know who would be stronger in a fair fight.
Elijah Howard
It's a clear way of showing the "odds" of winning a fight. And when those odds are broken, people get hype.
Brody Howard
Early Naruto was a breath of fresh air because trickery was baked into the setting, but is slowly gave way to power-creep and hax abilities.
Daniel Johnson
Toriko's capture levels were the best power levels I read in any manga. The auther knew how to utelize them to magnify the hype without it being "big number wins" since they only applied to monsters and not the main characters.
Jaxson Edwards
Yugioh (not counting buffs or effects)
Jackson Baker
>slowly
You mean from the second arc? Funnily enough this is the fight that most people cite as their favorite.
Cooper Bell
This probably happened for the same reason. There is a thrill to that primal aggression and the idea that two people going at it are guided by will. Nobody wants the Jason and Goliath Scenario where the protagonist gets a lucky shot, they want Jason to tap into his hidden potential just overpower Goliath with his bare hands.
People love that shit, it's the basis of all shonen basically. I would love to see more shit where protagonists win through a combination of wit and strength, but people just love power up bullshit.
Jackson Lopez
>Early [shonen] was a breath of fresh air because trickery was baked into the setting, but is slowly gave way to power-creep and hax abilities.
many such cases
Parker Lopez
as far as they were stated in the story, dragon ball never presents a scenario where the guy with the lower power wins (without pulling higher numbers out of their ass).
Parker Morales
By all accounts Rocklee should’ve ruined gaara
“Sand armor” was retardedly, unfairly, stupidly strong in this fight.
*gets piledrived face first into ground*
ACCHKTUALLY HE ~CUSHIONED THE BLOW WITH SAND~, A FAMOUSLY SOFT MATERIAL TO SPLATTER YOUR NOGGIN INTO
Michael Young
No. Brute force losing to trickery was the only lifeline this series had.
Ayden Parker
woah whats etho of ethoslab doing in naruto?
Carson Peterson
They only tease it with kuririn destructo disc, but never actually allow him to hit someone with them (and win the fight )
Raditz fight is the closest
David Moore
>Raditz fight is the closest
Piccolo explicitly powered up.
The closest is actually when Vegeta got tag teamed by the earthlings, but this was only possible after Goku powered up and beat on him a lot.
Austin Miller
Strictly speaking, what happens is,
>start with lower PL
>train
>get higher PL
The higher PL still wins in DB, but it might've been lower at some point, leading to "the lower PL won lol"
Kayden Murphy
Gaara was the brute force guy in that equation buddy boy
Nolan Bell
>Piccolo explicitly powered up.
Special, one shot techniques are by definition trickery and strategy, not pure power.
They were doing some finesse shit versus the pure power sayians
Kevin Phillips
Rock Lee did nothing but punch and kick and then when that didn't work he went super saiyan to punch and kick harder.
Luis Jones
As a kid reading through DB for the first time, the idea of reading literal power levels excited me a lot. Like a normal human is around 5-10 but I thought what if you trained a lot and became a 15-20. I didn't even care about the thousands in DB I just wanted to perceive my own powerlevel and increase it by 1 at a time. Honestly something silly like having this tech would make me work out a ton whereas now I don't care about it. The power of autism.
Jaxson Sanders
Doesn't matter. It showed as a power up on the scouter. It just lasted for 1 attack.
Juan Collins
The lifeline was actually doing ninja shit in your ninja manga btw
There’s no assassinations , no spying, no secret information giving.
It’s just country versus country politics and personal glory/fighting
Isaiah Sanchez
What trickery did Gaara do? He just spammed his sand abilities
Cooper Myers
>guy 1: invulnerable to everything, ultra strong special “arm” that kills you if it grabs you, doesn’t even have to move to kill you. Exerts no apparent effort, is an immovable wall
>guy 2: scrappy guy that defies expectations through hard work to fight with whatever means possible
Who is the brute force guy
Joseph Adams
Sand shield, armor, coffin, projectiles, tsunami...
The guy who punches and kicks until it doesn't work, after which he punches and kicks harder.
Rock Lee fans are the biggest retards.
Alexander Watson
Like I said, ability spam. Not actual tactics just Gaara throwing shit at Lee and hoping it works.