It's been well established by Toriyama himself that Gohan was always the strongest amongst everyone in DB series as a whole even his Father. Why are you upset about this?
Why Is Everyone Seething About Gohan On DBS Movie?
Asher Hughes
Aaron Foster
he's literally me
Brandon Kelly
Akira said Gohan could compete with everyone not necessarily the strongest at any point.
Jason Young
I would assume it's because of how there were certain power types and levels that were established in dragon ball super and the new movie somehow ignores all of that and just turns gives him white hair out of nowhere without explanation or any character even questioning what the hell it was. It is also possible because of how it looks too similar to UI goku, because of that it creates more questions as to what this new transformation is. Just calling it "Final Gohan" and changing his color doesn't give much of an explanation, personally I was expecting Piccolo to ask shenron to unleash gohan's final limits of power but it turned out to be another rage induced power-up that was triggered by another character's death but this time it was obvious the character in question was in no danger so this felt cheap and lazy, almost fanfiction tier.
Jose Morris
Toriyama have always intended Gohan to be the Strongest amongst all. He even wanted him to be the main lea but backed off for many reasons. He's now back and established this now. This is what makes other seethe knowing Gohan was always meant to be this.
Luis Rivera
I self insert as Goku and feel threatened on a personal level by Gohan
Jacob Murphy
>why is everyone [incomprehensible brown noises]
did not read.
tien shinhan.
that is all.
Luis Scott
>everyone
boomers and moeshitters on Any Forums don't matter
If Beast Gohan as is was in GT, people who be fellating to that like Super Furry 4.
Samuel Turner
>cheap and lazy, almost fanfiction tier.
That's the entire movie. Orange Piccolo and Final Gohan are both abominations.
Aiden Martin
Why?
Because he's not glowing generic blue like your latin americano fanart?
Elijah Rogers
Because it turns Piccolo into a generic orange brute and wasn't even an earned power-up. It's ass. Piccolo didn't need a transformation before and he didn't need one now.
Owen White
>actually overhauls the base design instead of giving it another color hue like Super Saiyan Blue
>used an older technique in conjunction so it's not a atatatatatata fest, but kaijukino
>makes the Dragon Team backup roster feel like they're actually useful again
>can go toe to toe with current goku/vegeta
>Antennas go up like it's demon horns
>Darker orange arms ala body fur on SS4
Orange Piccolo is based
Blake Hill
>wasn't even an earned power-up
And?
Ryan Morales
Gohan is my favorite Dragon Ball character, but "Gohan Beast" or whatever that fucking form is called is ugly as sin.
Michael Campbell
Oh oh oh the irony, and you think becoming a god level saiyan because YOU FUCKING HOLD HANDS LIKE FAGGOTS is earned, do you? Is that what you think, that you will powerup because your boyfriend is holding your hand? Is that it? Because I think that exactly what you think you fucking blue saiyan faggot.
Samuel Perez
>actually overhauls the base design
That doesn't make it good when the result is worse.
That was also bad, but I don't care for SS4 in general either.
Gabriel White
>this felt cheap and lazy, almost fanfiction tier
That is all DB after Namek.
Jordan Wright
The problem is the scaling.
I no problem with new transformations or forms. My problems is that they always want to make newest = strongest.
This form should be at least about SSJGSSJ Kaiokenx20 or UI-Omen/Sign tier. It shouldn't come close to Goku or Vegeta. But it should make it so with enough training, Gohan COULD close the gap.
Connor Taylor
people are upset about the movie looking like shit
Nicholas Young
*I have no problem
Dylan Rogers
Because most people believe it's unearned. Not only is it a soulless rehash of an iconic moment, but it also doesn't make a lick of sense narrative-wise. The Ultimate Form for all intense purposes a powered-up state that's supposed to allow one to bring their full potential and use it to the utmost degree. Starting from Resurrection of F it no longer was treated as a brand new base state but instead made as a separate transformation. Mostly done to keep people from combining it with Super Saiyan like in GT or the original version of Battle of Gods. Until it was retconned again in Super to where its possible to do but unlike in the original series where it was more of a detriment than a net positive, Gohan chose not to do it due to his viewpoint.
So not only did this transformation spit on those principles, it's not even tied to Super Saiyan despite again harking the transformation to his Super Saiyan 2 state. What's the point of getting invested with a character if he can just roid rage himself into a brand new transformation instead of earning it properly and becoming the strongest as a result. It's basically Broly. Frieza for all the bullshit he delivered at least trained for his Golden Form.
Juan Flores
>IESLB thread
I'll sit this one out.
John Flores
That doesn't make it good when the result is worse.
Lol, just admit the fact you're some shitass grandpa
Charles Rodriguez
Says you.