Wtf Rider is actually strong? Literally just had to take off her eyepatch

Wtf Rider is actually strong? Literally just had to take off her eyepatch.

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Shinji was a shit master she was always nerfed being paired with him

All of the FSN Servants are actually even more busted than they were back then since they get wanked all the time in FGO.

She fast too.

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This. She was shit because of Shinji.

...That's from FGO or something, right?
The Heaven's Feel movies don't actually look that shitty, right?

It looks much better on the big screen because you are sitting far away and the loud music/noise distracts your eyes.

FSN servants have so many excuses
>Saber has no mana
>Shinji sucks at master
>Caster has no master
>Koshiro is a fake
>Lancer isn't allowed to win
>Berserker never wins
>Gil isn't actually good at anything

Most of the strong servant were held back by their masters.
>Saber was held back by Shirou's shit mana, had to be creampied to recharge
>Rider was held back by Shinji
>Lancer was at full power, but Kirei litteraly didn't allow him to win.
The real shit tier servant is False Assassin.

yeah it would have been much more interesting if everything played out exactly as it was supposed to and Servant battles were just stat checks

jobbing stay/night

IIRC, the Grail War classe system was flawed since the start, considered the calvary classes (Assassin, caster, berserker, rider) were supposed to be shitters compared to the Saber, Archer, Lancer classes.

It was never supposed to be a fair fight, but Rider was supposed to be a sort of backup "knight" class in case the Three Families got cucked

Shit fight and a waste of budget.

Should have gone to 9 lives blade works.

NLBW was doomed to be shit because it happens in like ten seconds real-time and all the weight and power of the scene comes from what Shirou's thinking and feeling during it which Ufotable can't adapt to save their lives

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Every servant in the VN is a top tier servant.

He is good fucking clay I guess.

>Gil isn’t-
Wrong.

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Medea has no excuse
>can mind control any master in the war and send them to the temple to die so she's basically a better assassin than hassan (but i will admit that she gets fucked if there's 2 masters teaming up as she jobs against every servant)
>has kojiro to stall ANY servant
>can summon hordes of monsters
>doesnt even get a single kill across fate/ubw routes

Her shame from killing her sisters meant she would rather die than use her power

She should have just permanently buffed her boyfriend to have servant level stats. He could of contributed alot if he wasn't vulnerable

It's almost like the 5th war was a complete mess that happened way sooner than it should have and everyone was still recovering from the shitshow that was the 4th war.

>doesnt even get a single kill across fate/ubw routes
She has the highest dead ends. She gets plenty of kills.

She's strong, the problem is other Servants in that war were stronger. You have to understand that the Fifth Holy Grail War was complete fucking bullshit by most Grail War standards. Every single Servant in that war was top tier except Hassan.

This is what an "average" Grail War would be like:
>Saber: Chevalier d'Eon
>Archer: Robin Hood (there were multiple Robin Hoods in the Nasuverse)
>Lancer: Qin Lianyu
>Rider: Bonny & Read
>Caster: Geronimo
>Assassin: Any Hassan that's not King Hassan
>Berserker: Eric Bloodaxe

Something in that ballpark. It takes a lot of time, effort, resources and luck to get your hands on an actually good Servant.

>Geronimo
Is there any servant that got fucked over hard by their shit kit and never fixed?

Jekyll. Like Geronimo's bad but Jekyll is unsalvageable. I'd say both versions of Gilles are pretty trash too.

Is there anything that guarantees a HGW should have an average power level? Most participants aren't just summoning random servants to see what they get, any magus worth their salt gets a catalyst prepared beforehand

More like it was eventually rigged