Do you believe in the concept of there being "high art" and "low art" in terms of anime...

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Depends on what you want out of a story. People grow up mostly consuming and being exposed to fun, entertaining media. When they discover """deep""" and """mature""" anime it feels like a revolution to them when really it's just one of the many niches they weren't aware of that falls in it's own patterns and tropes.

There's just as much praiseworthy about a well produced entertaining anime than there is about some obscure "high art" crap that's actually really boring if you're honest with yourself.

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No, the difference between high art and pop art is social. Liking Beethoven is seen as cultured, liking The Beatles isn't. Society does not think you're cultured for watching cartoons.

>anime now is closer to anime then, than current year

old anime: fun
new anime: up its own arse

Society, in the scenario OP is pointing out, probably means your fellow consumers of japanese media. Haven't you ever judged a person for their favorite anime before?

No, that's not remotely what the distinction between "high" and "low" art is. I just fucking told you that. Metalheads arguing over which subgenre is the best is nothing to do with whether any of them are considered high art, because none of them are.

All artists want to make money/be famous/want recognition. Some time all of them at once. Don't delude yourself.

I've only read Crime and Punishment so far, but it wasn't particularly "deep." It has about the same level of character depth as something like Welcome to the NHK. Crime and Punishment's smidgen of modern day inaccessibility comes from needing to understand the society of the time and Raskolnikov's philosophy, the latter of which is spelled out at several points in dialogue. The same will be the case with NHK in 150 years.

If there is a clear equivalent to what you consider "high art literature," with NHK as a response to your Dostoevsky, then there can definitely be a distinction between high and low art anime. It boggles my mind when people say that anime is lacking in depth compared to literature, when the average DEEPshit anime measures up to the average "acclaimed classic" in literature.

Of course, you're not getting an equivalent to Finnegans Wake in any visual medium. Those types of books aren't the classics I'm talking about here.

Finnegans Wake is Pop Team Epic of English literature. Only underaged pseuds think it's deep.

First Of All, Don't Let 'Elitist' Cunts Tell U What Is High Art & What Is Not. Beethoven And Mozart Were Both Technically Excellent, But [Most Of] Their Compositions Are Dull, Lifeless, Unmemorable And Have A Dead Stare, IYKWIM.
Kylie Minogue's Music Is Better Than Theirs.
In Other Words Who Gives A Fukc Abt This Lmao, And The High-Art Idea Doesn't Apply To Anime.

C&P character archetypes have been used in many works after it, essentialy distilling the essence of the story. If you had read it back in a Russian peasant back 19th century, it will probably blow your mind. Also Notes from Underground is a better comparison to NHK while also being 10x better than the latter

That's blood meridian

>profound story necessarily translates into being a better experience
It will if you have a the intellect to appreciate it. High art (well made art) is more difficult to appreciate but the connection you have with it and the feeling of catharsis is much stronger than what you get with shallow entertainment.

The bugmen who tell you "just have fun" will never have such a deep connection with art ever. Their relationship with art will just amount to posting "yui is my waifu" threads for eternity.

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>It will if you have a the intellect to appreciate it. High art (well made art) is more difficult to appreciate but the connection you have with it and the feeling of catharsis is much stronger than what you get with shallow entertainment.
but doesn't that mean people without a high level of intellect can also derive, at least to the same degree, the feelings of connection and catharsis from shallow entertainment

As much as I prefer the standard of high and low dichotomy in art, with the advent of postmodernism, those distinctions are blurred and no longer exist. Look at the work of Warhol, or the architecture of Michael Graves, etc. Warhol's work blends "high-art" and "low-art" just as Derrida aimed to deconstruct binaries. The example of this in anime would be Kon's work for example. Of course this doesn't mean that every piece of art has a similar level of value, it's just an evolution of our aesthetics.

Ah to be 18 again and makes posts like this unironically without feeling embarrassed.