I'm downloading pic related in 4k
Is 4k anime a myth?
James Roberts
David Campbell
Technically yes. It's not drawn in 4K. The vast majority, virtually all anime really, are drawn in 720p. Shinkai movies are drawn in 1080p and a little higher than that. The 4K support is only upscaling.
Thomas Torres
Correctly remastered old cel anime will be 4k because 16mm and 35mm film has enough information, but it still wasn't meant to be seen that high and can look a little funky with cels visibly sliding around ever so slightly and background elements looking as lazy as they really always were but you weren't supposed to be able to tell. The only digital 4k anime is Sol Levante, even the couple movies are upscaled from 2k or even 1080. Tenki no Ko in your pic is only 1080 iirc. Even most live-action 4k BDs are filmed in 4k but then mastered in only 2k and upscaled back to 4k. 4k is always a meme but doubly so for anime.
Isaac Gutierrez
>The vast majority, virtually all anime really, are drawn in 720p.
This isn't really true anymore. A lot are 800 or 910. That's why you should download 1080 webrips, because upscaling is better than downscaling cuz at least you're not throwing out info and the bits per pixel is higher even if you're watching on a 768 or so screen.
By the way I forgot to mention that the "HDR" on Shinkai films and the VEG movie looks fucking atrocious, I don't think any of them were made with HDR in mind even though anime would actually benefit from that more than live-action content due to banding. I believe the Beatrice release of the latter actually poached the chroma planes from the 1080 BD and point upscaled it because it looked less bad that way.
James Nelson
Based and informative
Ryan Jones
Doesn't matter.
I only watch anime from the era of 480p and 4:3.
Matthew Morris
>Even most live-action 4k BDs are filmed in 4k but then mastered in only 2k and upscaled back to 4k
I thought that's mostly because CGI is mastered in 2K
Benjamin Reed
There is only one 4K anime and that's Sol Levante.
Hunter Brooks
Are you watching it on a 4k monitor? Otherwise there's 0 point having such a huge file.
Hudson Baker
Wrong. Compared to watching a 1080 file on a 1080 monitor, the bpp is higher and if downscaled properly it may as well have 4:4:4 chroma. Also that's a remux not an encode so the raw filesize is irrelevant.
Bentley Butler
You can't have pixels smaller than your pixels.
Henry Wilson
Splitting off Any Forums was a mistake.
Jaxson Thompson
> That's why you should download 1080 webrips, because upscaling is better than downscaling
No?
Japs use a poor upscaling. Its better to download 720p and upscale with nn scalers.
Jacob Murphy
We've been arguing about this for decades now on Any Forums. I graduated with an IT degree. Most monitors have 720p or 1080p.
Hunter James
Yes?
The only nn scaler that anyone uses for anime that will actually run in real time is FSRCNNX and it's way too sharp for line art anyway. Ringing out the ass. The correct way to do that autism is to download the 1080 rip, descale it to its native res, and upscale it from there. Not trying to upscale a downscale. Go back to Any Forums.
Sebastian Diaz
it's a myth unless it was celluloid and they did a proper rescan instead of an upscale.
or if the 4k or even 2k had a better audio mix. even if it did, you would need the best setup - no point if it's laptop and some logitech speakers
Angel Gray
>This isn't really true anymore. A lot are 800 or 910.
There is no proof of this, do you have any interview of directors saying this?
Nathaniel Russell
I've seen pics of some studio material that shows the resolution
but anyway, in the old days you'd use fourier analysis and some guesswork, and lately there's this thing that gives high-confidence results for most shows: github.com
Anthony Sullivan
I have a working knowledge of how upscaling works so I can use github.com
Cooper Davis
nnedi3 also is used to. The CNN scaler from anime4k also. FSRCNNX has the line art version. And also there are proper FSRCNNX forks.
>Ringing out the ass
Upscaling by japs is ringing as fuck.
>The correct way to do that autism is to download the 1080 rip
Yes but between proper 720p -> 1080p and just 1080p the first is better.
Owen Morgan
>Upscaling by japs is ringing as fuck.
there's never any ringing in the usual 1080p upscaled webrips