Fantasy > Isekai

The fact it doesn't go full JRPG for the most part and the mc is tied down to the same tropes makes it superior by default.

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betray

Fantasy is just soft isekai

Is it??

you forgot to spoiler isekai

Why "kicked out of party" is considered as isekai anyway?

>no stats
>no harems
>no op skills
>romance kept to a minimun
>almost all girls are amoral scum that do everything for their own benefit
>mc actually has to struggle
>struggle fantasy instead of power fantasy
>items, charms and runes give you temporary power boosts or immunities so you have to strategize using them efficiently
basically my dream fantasy

memestruggle fantasy is still a power fantasy
in fact it's worse than the usual because of the illusion it feels "earned" despite still reaping the full benefits of plot armor to win with no effort whatsoever
or worse, plot armor plus a couple meme loses that don't matter just so people can say "see? MC loses! it's not plot armor!"

shit argument but that's not what I want

Fantasy is just native Isekai.

Same shit

My brother

>Fantasy is just soft isekai

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I know bro...

What sort of fantasy do you want anyway?
>TFW no prince as protag

You n'wah

Isekai came from SAO which came from JRPG which came from Dnd which came from fantasy.
Good fantasy is fucking hard to do and actually rare. Isekai is churned by the hundreds and they're all unequivocally shit, just slight variations like in gacha games.
In the end there will be SAO and everything else will be forgotten.

>Isekai came from SAO
What was digimon then?

I unironically like isekai, it's fun.

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It ain't power fantasy lol
It's power reality.

Lazy turds would never understand the bliss of winning under your own merit

You would continue to make excuses and deny your true potential until time finally catches up to you. Good fucking luck

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Isekai is when you want a fantasy setting but are to lazy to build your world and your main character

>Be me
>Build world
>Find it fun but also frustrating
Still though, isekai is way too samey for me to enjoy.

A man's greatest dream is to fight for a great cause, especially against all odds.

I wouldn't mind being a humble human in a Lovecraftian world, fighting along side everyone just to keep the darkness at bay

I don't want to be the MC or be remembered. Just let me have a meaningful journey, a true camaraderie, and a cause worth dying for.

The modern world is so devoid of meaning, it sucks. Peace is great but is it really peace when we have the highest amount of suicide since the great wars?

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