Oda ruined deaths in One Piece--they have 0 impact because you never know if it's real

Bon Clay never died and the manga never claimed he did.

This, on top of Oda's aversion to romance, is why Naruto is superior. One Piece is very fun but doesn't take itself seriously enough. That said it's SO fun and the characters are so great (much better than Naruto's) that it's a close second despite its shortcomings.

Yeah, the manga totally didn't make it look like he died and Luffy and everyone else accept his death

>Waaa, my interpretation of events proved fallacious, this must be Oda's fault!

>This
>Naruto is superior
Don't this me when I call Naruto abysmal garbage and you think it's great. The only great thing about it is the third-party music in the anime

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Couldn't even kill Guy

Didn't even know they got fatally wounded or something.

Pell surviving a point blank nuke and Enel frying the fuck out of countless nameless fodder only for them to walk it off after a couple hours really did an irreparable amount of damage in terms of being able to convey stakes. Even years after the fact I'm still expecting Pedro to just come out of the blue and say that he inexplicably got away from blowing himself up because character deaths are that level of unbelievable.

Kinemon should have died. I think the main reasons he didn't were because Oda didn't want to have a sad ending, but also he didn't want to have to use up a full chapter where everyone mourns his death and has a funeral for him. Kinemon has been around long enough now where he would have needed a full chapter for his funeral and Oda doesn't have chapters like that to use up anymore.

You saying nonsensical crap isn't a proof of anything lol

>it's always believable when they happen
I think you forgot the literally hundreds of resurrections

One could argue it was the right decision as killing him would be a waste of his cool design and character, but he never did anything worthwhile and never will do anything worthwhile anyway. A great fruit was wasted on him

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I tried fixing Hiyori a little

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>only five flying DFs are known to exist
I'm sure we've already seen 30

That can easily be explained by Pell not knowing what he was talking about.

if anyone deserved to get a happy ending it was Kinemon

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>Pell
Is this where this shit started becoming ridiculous?

Pell probably just read the DF encyclopedia and assumed it had everything covered

>just make all old characters idiots who have no idea what they're talking about to explain plot holes
based

>getting one fact wrong makes you an idiot
Actual autism.

spouting half truths like they're carved in stone is what idiots do yes

the fact that Kiku didn't react to the death of her brother is kinda crazy

Name the fruits that actually make you able to fly.
>Kaido's fruit
Doesn't fly, he's supported by the clouds.
>Doffy's fruit
Doesn't fly, he spider-mans around.
>Gan Fall's horse
Was a bird that turned into a horse, not a horse that flew. Read more carefully in the future.
>Monet
Had a snow logia, her wings weren't a DF. Read more carefully in the future.
>Marco
That's 1. With Pell, that's 2. Keep going, you can do it!

Who even says he's wrong? I can't think of more than five powers that give you wings or let you naturally fly one way or another

It's not a 'half-truth' it's an incorrect assertion, and making one does not in fact make you stupid, autist-kun. Literally everyone does that sometimes.

you are the one who said he doesn't know what he's talking about. that's what an idiot is. now kys

she likely did, but it was offscreened

It really feels like Oda was randomly selecting two characters to die.
At least show their battles and don't kill them off-screen.

Hm, NTA, but I'm game to try, I think if you can stay in the air for an indefinite period of time without assistance like strings on clouds or whatnot and can move while doing it, it counts as flying.
>Caesar
>Pell
>Monet
>Marco
>Shiki
Is that it? Is Pell actually BASED?!

Name all the characters that actually came back from the dead and I reanimation doesn't count

It's hillarious because how oda staged it not even their friends gave a shit about izou and the pink fatass.
Marco just leaned against a wall and looked on smugly as chopper was operating on people, while his friend izou bled out, or possibly drowned in the flood that jinbei caused and his only sibling is out partying with the strawhats and doesnt give a fuuuuck.

I was quite clearly only agreeing with your point about the deaths and then elaborating my own ideas, smallbrain-kun. I would never want to imply a general consanguinity with your terrible taste, I assure you.

Okay, autist-kun, you're good.

user, what? You saw Ashura Douji die when he took the Oden-shaped bomb Kanjuro created with him out of the window.
You saw Izo's exchange of blows with the CP0 guy.
You saw them die.

King and Morgans. Shiki, Fujitora, now Green Bull, maybe Big Meme, and arguably some of the logia, but if you don't count Kaido as real flying then some of those probably don't count either for you

3 is the dude in Blackbeard pirates he have wings

Also Karasu

What even is his fruit?

>Kaido
>Big Meme
If Luffy inflated himself with helium would you consider the rubber, I mean Nika, fruit to be able to fly?
Akainu propels himself into the air via a magma explosion, does he fly?
Foxy takes a cannonball, hits it with his beam and goes on a leisurely ride. Does he fly?

King sure
Morgan’s can’t fly though

Just because he's fat, not because his DF fundamentally doesn't allow him to. He's a fuck albatross

Reminder that Kiku asked politely if everyone was okay with him using the womens bath. Kiku did not demand.

you are the one autistically explaining what an idiot is lol