Hunter x Hunter

Nen System/Mechanics discussion.

Any questions, theories, etc. Let's discuss.

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I’d hate to be a Transmuter, mostly because I feel like it’s a bit shakily defined in what it can do. It also seems like the hardest to get started, along with Conjuration.

>Take nen quiz because I like taking pseudo-personality quizzes, they're fun
>Says I'm a manipulator
>Only real ability I can think of from that is to embed programs into objects and people (including the user), making them act according to the program's designs
>Which is still less effective than just hijacking the target themselves
I need to think more creatively.

When thinking of Manipulation, you should consider other manipulators in the series. Controlling another person is obvious, but there’s a lot more to be done. My first thought is conjuring extra arms and manipulating them, but that probably has limited usefulness. As it is, I’d want it to be useful in my daily life above all else.

>Nen autism

>release aura
>release aura but differently
>release aura but differently
>release a little bit of aura
Why do these need to be separate categories?

I think it's down to picking the archetype of what you want your transmutation to be
>Pure damage
Least versatile types of transmutations and odds are you'll have to shield yourself from your own attack. Genthru, feitan, and Silva are in this camp.
>Extreme versatility
You're going to want to pick a substance that lets you get a lot of bang for your buck. Probably add on manipulation to either control it complexly or at least issue simple commands like changing states with your aura. The substance itself is probably benign or at the very least isn't a source of damage itself. Morel and Hisoka are in this camp.
>Balanced
Basically what you're making is probably dangerous but you have a way to use it besides just attacking. Another category is probably necessary to really draw out the potential of your substance. This is where Killua is at.

Keep in mind you aren't a conjurer, you can transmute stuff that's not real so let your imagination drift a bit. Hisoka's bungee gum is not something that ever existed in his world. Also think about sciency stuff more. Mereum transmuting his aura to be like Photons gave him a very unique En-like ability that also piggybacked off Pouf's spiritual messenger to read not just his opponent's aura, but map the terrain.

You can also probably just lean super hard into shapeshifting aura and become a bootleg Green Lantern.

Because they do represent different skills that have to be trained individually with some depending on multiple categories to really be proficient with them.

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>I’d hate to be a Transmuter, mostly because I feel like it’s a bit shakily defined in what it can do.
Transmutation is pretty simple. It lets you do two things. 1) Shape your aura. 2) Give your aura properties of things. You could shape your aura into a blade and give it the property of being solid like Gon's Jajanken: Scissor. You could addidtionally give this aura blade the properties of titanium. You also don't need to make your aura be 1:1 with a substance. You can make your aura be like a substance that doesn't exist by mixing certain properties like Hisoka's Bungee Gum with rubber elsticity and gum adhesiveness. Transmuted aura despite changes in shape or properties continues to be aura, therefore non-nen user's are not able to percieve it in any visual or auditory way. However, nen users will be able to percieve it as aura no matter the change.

>It also seems like the hardest to get started, along with Conjuration.
Transmutation and Conjuration effects are based on the user's ability to visualize things. Kurapika's and Killua's training style was a way to facilitate the process of learning to visualise something but is necessary. There might be other ways to train those types.

See that's why I thought using embedded programs was a good idea for a manipulator. You could do things like program in automatic martial art techniques and reactions much like Killua's Whirlwind ability, as well as lay automatic traps and implant suggestive commands or impulses into targets. Relying on programming skill to execute the embedded programs effectively provides a relatively-high skill barrier to boost the manipulative effectiveness. And as a bonus, with so much automated it would leave the user more open to focusing attention instead of needing to divest it for both nen control and what the target is doing.

Ren releases aura explosively, magnifying the damage attacks can do. It's why a nen user is inherently stronger than a normal person. Ken operates the same way, but for defense. However, both of these burn through aura pretty quick. En is a scanner, sensing stuff around you. Gyo focuses aura mostly on one body part, but still leaves some for the rest of the body. Ko is a more focused version of Gyo, but leaves the user wide open.
All these things have different applications.

>It just does whatever
There, saved you your entrie discussion thread.

These are some useful posts. I always had trouble coming up with something that felt different, it’s weirdly easy to forget the substances don’t have to be found in nature. In that case.

Transmuter ability: Superglue (can’t think of a better name)
>Despite the name, it acts more like water to start, it quickly dries up, but this can be adjusted. It takes more aura to keep it in a liquid form.
>Naturally, it’s sticky, and very much so. A normal person wouldn’t be able to break out.
>Downside: It’s sticky to the user as well.
>You can conjure an anti-stick suit, though it’s bright orange, so stealth operations are a no go if you choose to conjure it.

As I wrote this, it makes me feel like it’s pretty similar to Bungee Gum, arguably less versatile. However, the dried out version is reasonably durable, and it floats on water, it drying out is unaffected by water.

I feel the main use would just be spreading it on the ground where your opponent steps. Since it is on a timer, it can be rough to catch someone being careful, but that’s a risk one has to take. Not sure if the positives and negatives balance out.

Natural born transmuters are conniving, cunning sons of bitches, if you were one you'd be able to come up with some devious transmutation.

It being sticky for the user can be useful in certain situations like we have seen with Hisoka. Also if it does become detrimental the you can always un-transmute the aura.

Why is texture surprise undetectable? Isn't it created using nen?

>punch
>punch but differently
>punch but differently
Why do these need different names?

Conjured items don’t seem to leave any indication that they’re conjured. For instance, Kurapika’s chains always being conjured gives the idea that he might be a manipulator, it’s hard to tell. Kortopi’s Gallery Fake’d items also didn’t seem to be discernible from the real thing.

It's not like it's the only ability that functions that way, Kortopi's Gallery Fake creates copies that are indistinguishable from the original until they vanish. Also objects created through materialization are functionally normal objects and can't be differentiated from a normal object. Besides the entire ability is based upon deception, with no other effect, it would be rather incomplete if you could easily detect the difference.

I really liked Gon's Jajanken but I wish he used Paper and Scissors in a fight more than once each. Also I don't get why Scissors was clearly much more effective than Paper when Gon's nen affinity is skewed towards Emission rather than Transmutation

Basically, things created by Conjuration are not really aura anymore and are essentially real. Non-nen users are able to percieve things created with Conjuration.

How did meruem die from the poison? He survived a nuclear explosion and regenerated his body. I can't believe he couldn't survive or remove the toxins. Couldn't puof reduce himself to cell level and '' clean '' him?

Gon is better at Emission than he is at Transmutation. His Paper is stronger than Scissors. What you are missing is that Scissors was used on a nen-less chimera ant while Paper was used on fucking Knuckle. It's obvious why Scissors was more effective.

He's physically tough but it doesn't mean he's resistant against pathogens. Similar to how Uvogin got paralyzed by Rabid Dog's attacks.

Paper's big benefit is its range, makes sense that it isn't as strong as a shorter range attack.

Uvogin is a man, meruem is the pinnacle of the evolution of a species made of species

Meruem was only able to regenerate because Pouf and Youpi fed themselves to him, otherwise he would've died.
Pouf had no idea what was going on when he was being affected by the poison, so there's no way he could've helped Meruem in the end.