There are some who still believe that studios add yuri fanservice to increase sales

>there are some who still believe that studios add yuri fanservice to increase sales
Adding yuri implications to a show where the girls never seem into guys is not a free action. There are far more people who are turned off by "yuribait" than the amount of yurifags it draws in. The only kind of lesbian most otaku can stomach are the crazy-psycho types, and most people agree that they're annoying, trite characters at this point.

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No one cares faggot. Go back to

Kill yourselves, tourist trolls.

These 2 are still never getting married (to each other) or kissing each other, so it's still yuribait regardless.

Nobody asked.

Where's the bait though?

That probably was the case a little more than a decade ago, even the yuri market was still in the process of changing from mostly subtext stories to explicit ones, so this type of fanservice was still appealing to yurifags, meanwhile yuri just wasn't really in the waifufag or the normalfag mindset.

This isn't the case anymore and some studios are still late to caught on it, waifufags have become really defensive of yuri and aren't bothering trying to dismiss it anymore like they used to, they just get annoyed by it because it isn't what they want, which is all honestly fair, it's retarded to have a series for waifufags and have a yuri couplex mixed in.

Meanwhile yurifags look at shit like and they just don't bother with it anymore, if the series isn't promoted as yuri you most likely will not reach most of the yuri audience and you probably only get the attention of some if it's centered around a girl couple or an all girl cast series.

>they just don't bother with it anymore
Look at the amount of yuri fanart for series like LL and Machikado this season. There still seems to be plently of nip yurifags who enjoy series where the yuri is neither confirmed nor guaranteed.

Source, for your claims that is.

A show being classified as yuri makes me not bother with it.
Don't get me wrong; it's not because I dislike lesbians or anything. It's just that yuri is an inherently boring genre.

Popular franchises will get art, see Pokemon for example, all girl cast series are more likely to get them though and both those series have gone out of their way to really stretch subtext, LL even had a romantic confession while MM had been very direct sometimes too.

If you look at the most popular CGDCT series (Lucky Star, Azumanga Daioh, K-On!, Gochusia, and Yuru Camp), they all feature girls who have one-sided lesbian feelings for another girl that's usually played for comedic purposes rather than an ambiguous two-way relationship like the two girls in the OP. Even a popular series like New Game which eventually confirmed the yuri had one of the lesbians in question act like that archetype for the majority of the series.

But why draw yuri fan-art for those series if yurifags aren't interested? Surely it would be better to draw non-yuri fan-art to appeal to a larger fanbase.

It's a case where those series have a popular appeal so they end gathering (most of) all types of audiences, so those audiences end mixing up their own interests with it and they end creating their own "fancanon" that gets popular within those audiences, see Pokemon again for example, you have popular pairings of characters that aren't even of the same games and never interacted with each other, they just look visually appealing together, no yurifag is buying Pokemon games or watching Pokemon anime for yuri.

Watching two cute girls being into each other has always been one of the appeals of anime for me.
I remember being attracted to lesbians in non-yuri series like KonoSetsu in Negima and the witches in Horizon, and of course the yuri genre has been one of my most consumed.
I do admit that sometimes the subtext can get annoying though, like, creators pushing two girls hard to the point they're literal soulmates and then going through hoops and loops to avoid simply addressing them as lesbians when everyone can see it. At that point it would be simply stating the obvious and taking the next logical step in their development. People who get into shows about the relationship between two girls but would be turned off by explicit yuri are just retarded.

If yuri artists and fans are okay with creating their own fancanon in a series like Pokémon, why wouldn’t they watch and support with series that even more actively foster their fancanons? There are far fewer fancanons to be created in series which confirmed romances, after all.

But honestly, I’m just not seeing the change in the overall nip fanbase. Like, go through the yuri artists who draw fan-art for yuri shows. They usually also draw yuri fan-art for LL or Kirara or some other all-girl series. It seems convenient to suggest that they’re into and supporting the real yuri series but it’s just fancanon for the others. How many artists can you name that have developed a hardline, “I won’t support the series if they don’t kiss?” mentality? Surely if the fanbase has changed, then some of the artists would have too.

Why did they switch places again?

My point is not that they don't watch or read those series, but they don't do it with the expectation of those being yuri series, it's just something that somewhere intersects with their main interest that is yuri, those are popular series after all and the reason they are popular is because a lot of different types of people are watching them, but overall the yuri consumer is starting to not give as much attention to all girl cast series and "yuribait" ships, mostly because the yuri market grew a lot in the last decade and is now even branching out to offer a lot of different types of yuri stories that are not romances.

If you look at CUNE you can easily see how things changed, they went from a yuri friendly magazine to actually publishing explicit yuri stories, mostly because the yuri community is not that interested in reading those anymore as they used to be, even Kirara is publishing more actual yuri romances and even the type of subtext they used to have mostly changed from one sided "love" that could as well be interpreted as deeply admiration to a reciprocal affectionate relationship that is very hard to not look as a two girls who are attracted to each other.

I think it was that Charlotte wanted to see the city or something disguised as Ange but it happened on the day the war started and they got seperated.

You don't know shit about Japan.

>they don't do it with the expectation of those being yuri series
If anything, as more subtext series are confirming the yuri, now seems like the perfect time for yurifags to develop expectations that those kinds of series should and will actually deliver and hold publishers accountable if they don't rather than insisting that they will only support series that are yuri from the start. Confirmed yuri is nice and all but it doesn't have the same charm as surprise yuri.

>my point is not that they don't watch or read those series
>the yuri community is not that interested in reading those anymore
You're contracting yourself here. CUNE could have also switched from yuri-friendly to explicit yuri because it was just discount Kirara before. Why should someone buy the old CUNE when Kirara exists?

Lesbians are one of the least popular fetishes in Japan.

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