This is completely retarded

This is completely retarded.

Fire and Magma are in the same temperature range. Blue flames are even hotter than the hottest lava pools.

Why can't manga authors understand basic physics?

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I remember when this was the controversial part and not Ace falling for Akainu's taunts.

Yes, One Piece is retarded.
Why are you only waking up now?

Lava is hotter than your tpical wood burning flame, but fire can become hotter than magma. It depends on how much Ace was able to raise the temperature of his fire.
Besides magma is molten rock and can snuff out fire the same way sand can do it if you throw it on an open flame, that might've played a role as well.

>american education
ace didn't have blue flames, akainu is way hotter
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Chapter 1051 Shogun of Wano Kozuki Momonosuke
Cover: The Germas escape
-mostly a continuation of the last chapter, Momonosuke gives a speech to all of Wano.
-Momo became Shogun in this chapter
-small Tama flashback, we learn that her power only lasts for a month
-Yamato tells the crew that he, Kozuki Oden, will join them on their ship, some of the members are happy about it and some are shocked.

>but fire can become hotter than magma. It depends on how much Ace was able to raise the temperature of his fire
And this is how Akainu will job to Sabo.

Oda already has proven to suck at science with rubber being immune to electricity.

It has nothing to do with being hotter, he said it’s because he consumes fire, retard.

>This is completely retarded.
Lava is a physical substance. Fire is a chemical reaction of combustion. Lava can smother fire, the same way a landslide would. Without oxygen, fire is extinguished, but because lava is a substance that has been superheated, lava can continue to burn even when underwater.

I'm going to ignore the fact that lava is absolutely hotter than fire, and that we never saw any evidence from Ace that he could burn as hot as magma could. Because that's a pointless argument, and if the manga says Ace couldn't burn that hot, then you've got nothing to complain about that isn't just cope.

Akainu's exact words were "magma consumes fire," which is correct. It would, because magma would just roll the fuck over fire and overwhelm it, because it's a physical substance with mass and inertia, it would smother fire. That's just basic logic. How the fuck would fire counter magma? The only way is if Ace could somehow burn hot enough to VAPORIZE the rock (or whatever substance Akainu is secreting). He would have to heat it up so much that it turns into a gas, and if Ace could do that, he could have probably solo'd the admirals and walked his own ass out of there without help.

You should be complaining about how Ace fell for Akainu's taunting and trash talk, when they literally had already won and were in the process of escaping. They could have fucking left and everyone would have lived if Ace had just not fallen for obvious baiting. Oda made Ace behave like a fucking retard, and it was a massive cop-out to allow the pirates to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It only happened because Oda wanted to have his cake and eat it, too. He wanted the scene where Luffy frees Ace, but he didn't want Ace to live. He should have just had the rescue attempt fail, and forced Luffy and the other pirates watch as Ace was executed. Ace dying because he's too stupid to just run away in a straight line is ridiculous.

Ace was a retarded shitter that got himself killed just because he couldn't handle a man stating his opinions

It wasn't rubber

Ace doesn't rely on oxygen to generate flames, he just materializes his element like any other logia ignoring conservation of mass. His fire can have mass and inertia as well as shown by him shooting a hiken through a ship and ripping it apart like it was hit by a cannonball. He doesn't need to be hot enough to vaporize the rock, he just has to generate equal or greater kinetic energy to push back or pulverize the rock.

Akainu's haki on another planet compared to Ace. The elemental shit talk is not even really relevant.

CHADkainu wins yet again.. can we ever stop winning?

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Conservation of mass has nothing to do with fire needing oxygen to burn. Ace can materialize fire but that fire will be put out if there isn't oxygen to sustain it.

>Fire and Magma are in the same temperature range
Not really. Orange fire iat max is below magma. If you heat it above the temperature of magma it would change color. If the heat is the only criteria of who of those two would win, then Cesar would shred Akainu since his gas sword is far, far hotter than what Ace and Akainu managed to show.

In Pokemon fire is weak to ground and rock

Which is irrelevant because Ace is shown actively materializing fire from himself as he's being punched through by Akainu. He isn't consuming any oxygen to burn and it isn't being smothered by lack of oxygen since logia materialization violates conservation of mass, it just pops into existence without consuming anything. He simply couldn't withstand the force of Akainu's punch that overcomes the body's resistive force and permanently destroys his vitals presumably due to haki. This really should be easily inferred from the fact neither Ace nor Akainu have ever used the extreme heat effects of their ability to prevent enemies from breathing.

WELL YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY, BLACKBEARD
THOSE WHO CAN'T, TEACH

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Slugma and Magmar are pure fire types
>immune to lightning because Nika lol
>immune to fire because Nika lol
What's next, he survived Magellan because he was Nika? Will he be immune to freezing because he's Nika and breathe and use his powers underwater because he's Nika?

one piece faggots will still think luffy is not a chosen one, they can only cope

>Ace is completely retarded
FTFY

All of his friends died for absolutely nothing because Ace couldn't handle someone saying mean words and just walk away. What a useless brat. It's so dumb I can't even feel a shred of sadness about his death. He fucking deserved to die at that point.

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>If it's true in pokemon it must be proper science
Seems legit

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