>character over-reactions, hype and melodrama is cringe even if they are not real people. thinking that over the top exaggerated expressions are more powerful is the teenagers way of thinking that bigger and louder is always better
>lacks nuance, its all or nothing all the time, their expressions are inhuman, basically emojis, their reactions are generic and overused
>characters are super generic in their designs and their personalities fit rigourously to their respective tropes and archetypes, the idea of a three dimensional character is just giving it a sad childhood or some gay shit like that
>absurd amounts of filler and recaps, not to mention they treat the viewer like they're dumb (likely because it's made for kids), with constant over exposition and summaries of events they just saw happening
>strong habit of bending reality to better serve the narrative
It's made for children and therefore is made to be easy to watch, this should be leagues behind you, right?
Why do grown 'men' watch shonenshit?
Half of those "grown men" are women.
>women
Kek
Virtually every guy I work with, whether they're 18 or 40, really nerdy or doesn't know what the term anime means, follows at least two or three shonen series. Its Japanese capeshit and people enjoy it because it's fun to watch a couple of dudes slug each other with the occasional superpowers. I get not liking it but it's obvious why the average person thinks Dragon Ball and Jujutsu Kaisen are cool.
These series would not be sells tens of millions if they were strictly for children, they never have been. They're written to be disposable entertainment that's approachable for children but targeting all audiences,
“Dear Diary”
Most people have no taste. Look at Any Forums and tell me people know what good is.
It's called Testosterone. You wouldn't get it.
He's right half of Jump readers are women
Yeah, they're are some people here that unironically think flavor of the month waifu shit is better than even the worst shounen.
Pretty much every point you make is applicable to anime as a whole
Shonen jump is the cancer of this medium.
these shitty things last 20 fucking years, that's why. I don't watch Jujutsu, MHA or any of the new shit. But damn, I need to see how One Piece ends. I started out as a child. But now I'm commited to this crap.
Isn't that dude in the bottom left a pornstar?
I hadn't watched shonen shit in a long time, but I just finished watching Demon Slayer season 1 and 2 and wow is it amazing. Action sequences wee a bit dragged out as always, but amazing. Unfortunately, most shonen shit cant even reach 1/10ths of the animation budget/quality of this show; best I can think of is some of the FS/N stuff I've watched previously.
>thinking that over the top exaggerated expressions are more powerful is the teenagers way of thinking that bigger and louder is always better
Fucking retard. Learn what animation is. >>lacks nuance, its all or nothing all the time, their expressions are inhuman, basically emojis, their reactions are generic and overused
The fuck does this even mean? Different series have different art styles. For some over the top expressions work and for some subtle ones.
>>characters are super generic in their designs and their personalities fit rigourously to their respective tropes and archetypes, the idea of a three dimensional character is just giving it a sad childhood or some gay shit like that
Read better shounen dumbass
>>absurd amounts of filler and recaps, not to mention they treat the viewer like they're dumb Stop watching bad anime adaptation
>>strong habit of bending reality to better serve the narrative
Happens with genre, depends on the writer
>it's made for children and therefore is made to be easy to watch, this should be leagues behind you, right?
Everything is easy to watch if you aren't a midwit. Stuff like One Piece, FMA, Gintama are still far more creative and better written than the vast majority of fiction. Only insecure tweens care about demographics.
I only watch Isekai, sorry babe.
Sometimes I just wanna watch two guys punch each other
Why do "grown men" seethe about shounen day in and day out? You'd think they'd be mature enough to ignore what they don't care for.
>somehow conflates animation and art style with the emotions of a character
???
>Read better shounen dumbass
Name some
>Everything is easy to watch if you aren't a midwit.
The point was that its that easy to watch a midwit can
>why do people watch sports on tv?
actually, im not OP but i'll give you a mission. name some of you fav seinen, etc. shows with some good examples of well-designed and three-dimensional characters. in my experience, most are pretty one or two dimensional. most manga isn't penned by Dostoevsky after all.
Because I wasted my time watching it and it deserves it's worst
>>somehow conflates animation and art style with the emotions of a character
Nigger, one of main things about animation or comics is to be theatric, you can draw a character to represent an entire emotion, or you could be more subdued. One isn't more impressive or smarter than the other, they're both styles. Give me an example of this emotion you're talking about and how it differs from "more nuanced" expressions.
>Name some
Yu yu hakusho, FMA, Gintama
>The point was that its that easy to watch a midwit can
Only a midwit tests his intelligence with fiction of all things.
>character over-reactions
>lacks nuance
This is true for all anime.
>characters are super generic
It's the complete opposite. A "serious, adult" TV show would be normal-looking people with normal personalities talking about normal things, not idiosyncratic cereal box mascots throwing shockwaves at each other.
>absurd amounts of filler
Skip 'em.
>strong habit of bending reality to better serve the narrative
This is a misunderstanding.
Battle shounen are action serials, they're not about the plot. If you ever said, "When's Luffy finding the One Piece," you are a fucking dumbass. Finding One Piece doesn't matter. That exists to create a canvas for which the rest of the series can be drawn on. They start at Point A and say, "I'm going to make it to Point B," but who in their right mind wants the MC to reach Point B? Point B means it's over. You're not watching it to see them reach Point B, you're watching it to see all the crazy shit they get into. Point B is just when the author gets tired of drawing crazy shit or they get canned. That's it. There is no "narrative." Do you think Luffy defeating Enel was important to the plot of finding One Piece? No. Who the fuck cares? The audience is there to see Luffy fight Enel, he can find One Piece in 5 years or 10 years or 100 years, that shit does NOT matter.
I want to see interesting characters fight each other (or solve some other kind of challenge) using weird superpowers. That's what I'm here for. It's fun. It's inspiring, it gives me stuff to daydream about.
>this should be leagues behind you, right?
I read Don Quixote and it was cringey.
I read Moby Dick and it was mostly boring.
I read Heart of Darkness and it just made me feel bad.
I read the Old Man and the Sea and wanted to kill myself.
I read Lolita and the Metamorphosis, and I liked them, but they're not something I can read every week or really talk to others about. So, I read them. And now that's in the past. One Piece is still here.