We had a really good thread yesterday that mostly stayed on topic. So hopefully get some more good discussion.
Opening question of the thread: If Yang had went against the surrender and killed Reinhard at Vermillion, could the Alliance have been rescued or was it doomed to collapse regardless. .
yes, against Empire of that size, the Alliance was always doomed
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Gay. This is now a husbandfu thread
The power vaccum would probably lead to the largest civil war known to history and millions would perish the only way I see that not happening is if Kirheis were here
The alliance was diseased from the inside. Regardless of the conflict with the Empire they wouldn't last.
I think Reuntal could have filled the vacuum but not without war as you said. I wish Reinhardt had more of a succession plan.
The Empire would retreat to settle the succession issue and spare the FPA. If the admirals duke it out in a massive civil war the FPA might have enough time to rebuild their navy and stave off any future invasions. However, if the succession was handled smoothly or the civil war ends quickly the Empire would be in a position to finish off the FPA easily as the FPA's navy is nonexistent beyond Yang's fleet.
Actually it's funny because I'm going through my first rewatch of the series, and Reinhard mentions that if Kircheis were there he would have Kircheis leading the fleet while Reinhard would have taken care of Domestic Affairs. I found that to be shocking, and something I forgot, because you would think the roles would have been reversed based on their personalities. But also if Kircheis was there I imagine he would have heavily tempered Reinhard's ambitions, or at least make the approach to war with the Alliance different.
I understand the FPA was heavily in decline, I guess I should have put the timeframe that the FPA probably would have collapsed inside of a decade regardless of the outcome of Vermillion. Only Yang taking a dictatorship could have saved it, and Yang just wasn't wired that way. He would have been an awful head of state.
You guys have to continue to discuss if you ever want to have a LOGH thread without a bait OP
user, LotGH doesn't need back to back threads, better wait for DNT subs and we can discuss then.
We would need to spoilertag better for nu-animeonlies though.
It's husbando, phonefag.
Alright, I remember a logh fanfic covering this premise that went like this:
>Empire retreats to settle succession
>Trunicht gets impeached for attempting to surrendering and terraist connections, Rebello gets elected
>Imperials are busy discussing the succession with one side favoring Annerose and the other favoring Reuenthal
>Rubinsky launches a socialist rebellion in the Empire with the Terraists help
>The two sides of the Imperials work together to crush the socialists
>Fezzan officially allies with the FPA and works with Yang to drive the Imperials away from Fezzan
>Fezzan permanently seals off the warp lanes of the Fezzan corridor with some kind of warp bomb, sealing it off from the Empire
>Yang tries to get the FPA to approve of sealing the Iserlohn corridor, but they refuse stating that sealing off warp lanes are a war crime and that the FPA was founded on the ideals of liberating the Empire and accepting refugees
>Mittermeyer was killed by the Terraists
>Many believed Reuenthal murdered Mittermeyer, but Reuenthal managed to convince them of his innocence
>Reuenthal crushes the socialists, marries Annerose and becomes Emperor
>Terraists get purged by Reuenthal and Rubinsky
>Emperor Reuenthal launches a final invasion of Iserlohn, launching asteroids at it ala Geiersburg while Fezzan plans on forcefully sealing off the Iserlohn corridor themselves. Yang foresaw this and stopped them.
>FPA government finally agrees to seal off the Iserlohn corridor, ending the war and permanently separating the FPA and Empire from each other.
I don't think sealing off warp lanes is a thing in canon but it's an interesting way for the FPA to survive past Vermillion.
>but Reuenthal managed to convince them of his innocence
Reuenthal is too prideful to plead his innocence. Fanfic ruined.
I don't know if Reunthal would work with Rubinsky. I think he despises men like him and Trunicht. You know when I first watched the series I thought the fact that Julian could go toe to toe with Reinhard was a bit out of nowhere, but the series does a really great job of giving Julian moments of strategic genius even under Yang.
Fuck DNT, I hate that shit.
The fanfic actually handled it in a very Reuenthal way. He didn't plead his innocence, he just told everyone he didn't do it, gave them his gun and told them to shoot him if they don't agree. Nobody disagreed.
Reuenthal didn't work with Rubinsky or even interact with him, they had their own reasons to destroy the terraists and handled the purge independently on their own. Reuenthal just blew up their base on Terra and sent soldiers to wipe out their churches like Reinhard. Rubinsky assassinated the leaders on Fezzan. I don't remember how Rubinsky took out the FPA Terraists but he probably just used the FPA media to air all their secrets and turn public opinion against them.
>He didn't plead his innocence, he just told everyone he didn't do it, gave them his gun and told them to shoot him if they don't agree. Nobody disagreed.
And then everybody clapped.
10/10 fanfiction next they Should make Yang and Greenhill have a cuckquean Fetish and rope Hildegard into it.
Yang didn't believe that a dictatorship was inherently moral. He has a line "The rights of the people should only be violated by the people" or something like that which encapsulates how he feels about it. Yang was also not a politically minded person, he lacks ambition and only ends up climbing the ranks by falling into it. The FPA's biggest weakness is how corrupt its leadership is and I have no idea how to combat that.
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No thanks. That shit is a stain on the legacy of LOGH.
>The FPA's biggest weakness is how corrupt its leadership is and I have no idea how to combat that.
The most-corrupt party almost lost the big election, and Jessica Edwards' party almost won the big election. All Yang needed was a few more years of defensive victories, and then the people could have voted in politicians who aren't (or who are less) corrupt.
No, Yang had become a bandage to mortal wound by that point.